On Jul 22, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Iain Duncan wrote:

> Ok, that's good news, but guys *you need to tell us these things*!
>
> Where are these announced? Where is the news? Where are they on the
> roadmap? Where are the posts on the almost silent dev mailing list?  
> Why
> is it so ridiculously hard to find out what's up with the future of
> Pylons?

Hmm, yes, that is true. What do you think would be the best way? Blog  
posts? I'm just unsure of what to say, should I just put a new post up  
now and then saying, "We're not dead, really!" ?

While I do work on various stuff, a good amount of it is also  
experimental, just to see if things will work. It also feels even  
worse to make a blog post saying I'm working on something, then I get  
bogged down at work and the feature is a month late or something which  
seems to make people even more unhappy.

> One of the first concerns of new people is "is this really an active
> project? what's going on? will it be around in a year after I've put
> months into learning the project and converting my work to this
> framework? will I be able to convince clients that I'm not using
> something they will be stuck with"

We did update the web page to have news that keeps it a bit more  
current than the old one. If other people would like posting ability  
to the PylonsHQ news blog, to announce sites using Pylons, new things,  
etc. I'd be happy to permit more people to post there. Any  
volunteers? :)

> IMHO the public face of Pylons needs to do a lot more to give the
> impression that Pylons is active and continuing and not going to  
> become
> abandon-ware. There are people out there interested in helping with
> this, but when we make some noise about it and it gets almost no
> response from anyone, it's very discouraging to us re the future
> viability of basing work on Pylons.

Yes, and there is definitely uptick in Pylons usage, which would be  
awesome to note somewhere as acknowledging increased use helps drive  
more use, etc. Send me your PylonsHQ login and I'll add PylonsHQ news  
posting permission to your account so you can help us spread the  
word. :)

Cheers,
Ben

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