Jamie wrote:
> It seems that most people who adopt a MVC framework are in love with
> the ORM stuff.  I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who insists on
> hand-writing my queries and sticking them in stored procedures?
>

My current project is heavily invested in stored procedures, to the tune 
of about 10k lines of SQL. Like you, I'm more coming from a DBA/RDBMS 
standpoint, and find that ORMs never do things properly.

> I guess it's because I come from a DBA/RDBMS development background
> and tend to make heavier use of the procedural logic available in a
> RDBMS, whereas most web developers use the DB purely as a bit bucket.
> I've tried to use a few ORMs, but have found them to be "too magical"
> and they get in the way of how I'm used to doing things.  (In fact the
> primary reason I've adopted Pylons is because I can use it without an
> ORM).  Is there any compelling reason why I should force myself to use
> SQLAlchemy?


As others have said, see if its other tools fit your needs. If not, then 
it's not for you. It wasn't for me, so I built Simpycity, which does 
some nice abstractions entirely using raw queries.

The best part about Pylons is, if a component doesn't work for you, you 
can replace it without much trouble at all.

Regards,
-- 
Aurynn Shaw

The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. 1.503.667.4564 ext 103
PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support

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