Hi David,

thanks for your comments. Yeah the docs site was online far before the
real one and that's why everything seems to point to that direction.
You're right for having a better starting page for docs site and have
better back links. We'll try to work out something during pycon
sprints.

On Mar 8, 10:58 am, David Eisner <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:28 AM, mjmein <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think the problem currently is that people start by going into the
> > main documentation, and then get overwhelmed.
>
> Yes. I have mentioned this elsewhere, but a newcomer like me goes
> through this process:
>
> 1. Google "Pyramid framework".
>     The first hit ishttp://docs.pylonsproject.org. I've been told
> thathttp://pylonsproject.org/is meant to be the canonical starting
> page for Pyramid now, but that doesn't even show up on the first page
> of results.
>
> 2. Scan over the docs page and realize I'm already one level too deep.
>     I want to get to a Pyramid overview page, which would probably
> include a link to the documentation page I'm now on.
>
> 3. Click "Pylons" on the orange banner at the top.
>     Nope, that just takes me back to the page I'm already on.
>
> 4. Click on the "Home" navigation bread crumb.
>     Also just takes me back to docs.pylonsproject.org
>
> 5. Hmm, I wonder what's atwww.pylonsproject.org.
>     Aha!
>
> It shouldn't be this hard. The lack of a prominent link from
> docs.pylonsproject.org up to (www.)pylonsproject.org can be easily
> remedied.  Tackling the Google results issue is a bit trickier.
> Perhaps it would help if the prominent "Pyramid" link 
> onhttp://bfg.repoze.org/pointed tohttp://pylonsproject.org/and 
> nothttp://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/dev/. More internal
> links back tohttp://pylonsproject.org/might also help.
>
> -David
>
> --
> David Eisner    http://cradle.brokenglass.com

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