I'd have to say I agree that it's a bit hard to find the right stuff
googling right now. I'm guessing that's a matter of time, spiders finding
links and so on, but whatever can be done to make it easier to find the
right stuff for folks with a simple search would go a long way right now,
IMHO.

iain


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Blaise Laflamme <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> thanks for your comments. Yeah the docs site was online far before the
> real one and that's why everything seems to point to that direction.
> You're right for having a better starting page for docs site and have
> better back links. We'll try to work out something during pycon
> sprints.
>
> On Mar 8, 10:58 am, David Eisner <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:28 AM, mjmein <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I think the problem currently is that people start by going into the
> > > main documentation, and then get overwhelmed.
> >
> > Yes. I have mentioned this elsewhere, but a newcomer like me goes
> > through this process:
> >
> > 1. Google "Pyramid framework".
> >     The first hit ishttp://docs.pylonsproject.org. I've been told
> > thathttp://pylonsproject.org/is meant to be the canonical starting
> > page for Pyramid now, but that doesn't even show up on the first page
> > of results.
> >
> > 2. Scan over the docs page and realize I'm already one level too deep.
> >     I want to get to a Pyramid overview page, which would probably
> > include a link to the documentation page I'm now on.
> >
> > 3. Click "Pylons" on the orange banner at the top.
> >     Nope, that just takes me back to the page I'm already on.
> >
> > 4. Click on the "Home" navigation bread crumb.
> >     Also just takes me back to docs.pylonsproject.org
> >
> > 5. Hmm, I wonder what's atwww.pylonsproject.org.
> >     Aha!
> >
> > It shouldn't be this hard. The lack of a prominent link from
> > docs.pylonsproject.org up to (www.)pylonsproject.org can be easily
> > remedied.  Tackling the Google results issue is a bit trickier.
> > Perhaps it would help if the prominent "Pyramid" link onhttp://
> bfg.repoze.org/pointed tohttp://pylonsproject.org/and nothttp://
> docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/dev/. More internal
> > links back tohttp://pylonsproject.org/might also help.
> >
> > -David
> >
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