Just an FYI for people trying to set up projection stereo on a budget... Version 0.96beta2 included additional changes to facilitate this, and some specific instructions for configuring PyMOL to work in dual-screen (passive) stereo mode can be found on the bottom of the beta-release page.
http://www.delsci.com/beta Also, be sure to use a high-end graphics card when trying this. I've heard that the ATI FireGL Z1 or X1 cards support OpenGL acceleration on both screens from a PyMOL window spread over both. I don't have any specific info about how nVidia cards perform in this configuration. Cheers, Warren -- mailto:war...@delanoscientific.com Warren L. DeLano, Ph.D. Principal Scientist DeLano Scientific LLC Voice (650)-346-1154 Fax (650)-593-4020 > -----Original Message----- > From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net > [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of > EPF (Esben Peter Friis) > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:08 PM > To: Daniel Moriarty > Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations > > > Daniel, > > The projection system itself, including non-depolarizing > screen, two projectors, projector stacker (ceilling mount or > floor/tabletop, depending on you needs), filter holders for > the projectors, filters and glasses can be done for less than $10K > > I bought ours at ProjectorPoint (screen, projectors, filter > holders and stacker), http://www.projectorpoint.com, and > Reason, http://www.reasonco.com (filters and glasses), both > Minneapolis-based companies. > > You will of course also need a computer for the setup, and > our Linux system / Nivida graphics is perfect for the > purpose. Note that this solution requires a dual-head > graphics board, and a driver capable of sending the two > stereo images to separate displays. I have no experience with > Macs, so I don't know if this is possible. > > If not, you can buy a splitter box, which splits the ususal > page-flipped signal used for the shutter glases into separate > left/right VGA signals. It is sold by a Norwegian vendor, > I'll find the link if you are interested. BUT the price for > the splitter box is high... (> $10K) You can probably buy a > complete linux system with a Quadro FX3000 card for less than > half of that :-) > > So, I guess it should be possible to have a 3D-cinema running > for less than $15K. > > > Cheers, > > Esben > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Moriarty > To: EPF (Esben Peter Friis) > Sent: 12-05-04 20:14 > Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations > > Esben, > > Your last line about a stereoscopic projector system > intrigued me. I have PyMOL running on my dual G5 with > stereographic's crystalEyes system, and my students really > enjoy using it. I've had the department chair and the dean > looking at this system, and they both really like it. I > wanted to bring this fully into the classroom and use it not > only in biochem, but also in inorganic and organic chemistry. > Unfortunately, to get a projector to use the Stereographic's > system runs on the order of ~$25,000, and at that point it's > another $7,000 for the system and glasses. > > We already have a standard TFT projector in the classroom, so > your system of two projectors sounds like a possibility. I > was wondering if you could tell me a little more about the > system and it's setup. This might be a more reasonable way > for me to go, as everyone loves the possibility of what I can > do, but up to this point, I'm not sure they are willing to > pony up over 30K for it. > > > Thanks, > > Dan > > -- > Dr. Daniel Moriarty > Siena College > Chemistry and Biochemistry Dept. > 515 Loudon Road > Loudonville, NY 12211 > (518) 783-2472 > fax: (518) 276-4887 > > > > From: "EPF (Esben Peter Friis)" <e...@novozymes.com> > > Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 08:50:41 +0200 > > To: <peter.hae...@staff.uni-marburg.de> > > Cc: <pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Subject: RE: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations > > > > > > Hi Peter > > > > > > Your posting is a few weeks old, but I could see no replies yet, so > I'll try > > :-) > > > > We have single-CPU Dell machines (3 GHz, 2GB RAM), but I suppose you > just buy > > CPU, disk and memory according to your needs (and money :-) > > > > You don't write anything about OS, but according to your > "ps" line, I > assume > > it is Linux. We use Nvidia Quadro FX3000 graphics, which I can > recommend. It > > is really fast (compared to our old SGIs), and the setup is > straightforward. > > Just download the driver from nvidia.com, run the > installer, and add a > few > > things in the XF86Config file (see Nvidia readme file). We have > successfully > > tested the driver (including stereo support) with Pymol on the > following OSes: > > > > RH 9.0 > > Fedora Core 1 > > Enterprise WS 3 > > Windows XP > > > > I have no experience with O, but Pymol, VMD and Accelrys insightII > graphics > > works fine i stereo. > > We use glasses from http://www.edimensional.com/, which are > about $100 > for > > emitter and glasses, and $50 for extra glasses w/o emitter. There is > also a > > "breakout" box for use with cheaper graphics cards, but if > you use the > FX3000 > > (or any other Quadro card), you just throw away the breakout box and > connect > > the emitter directly to the VESA stereo connector on the graphics > card. > > > > We also have a 3D projection system with two projectors and > polarization > > filters. The Quadro cards are dual head, and the Nvidia driver is > capable of > > sending the L/R stereo images to different displays (requires > additional setup > > in XF86Config, again - see the readme file). So no problems here > either. (I > > haven't been able to make this work under Windows yet :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Esben > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net > >> [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf > Of Peter > >> Haebel > >> Sent: 27. april 2004 10:00 > >> To: war...@delanoscientific.com; al...@xray.bmc.uu.se > >> Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net; o-i...@o-info.imsb.au.dk > >> Subject: [PyMOL] Updated OpenGL Hardware Recommendations > >> > >> > >> Dear all, > >> > >> we just considering to purchase new linux pcs and i would be very > >> interested in the latest hardware recommendations? > >> > >> we are planning to use these machines for stereo > visualization with > >> pymol and O. > >> > >> cheers, > >> > >> > >> peter > >> > >> > >> ps. has the pymol Xig Summit2.2 problem been resolved? > >> -- > >> ___________________________________________ > >> > >> Dr. Peter Haebel > >> > >> Philipps-Universität Marburg > >> Institut für Pharmazeutische Chemie > >> Marbacher Weg 6 > >> D-35032 Marburg > >> > >> phone: +49-6421-28-25072 > >> fax: +49-6421-28-28994 > >> > >> email: peter.hae...@staff.uni-marburg.de http://www.agklebe.de > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the > >> hottest thing ever to hit the market... > >> Oracle 10g. > >> Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > >> http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id149&alloc_id66&op=ick > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PyMOL-users mailing list > >> PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/p> ymol-users > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn > developer > > strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson & Lucent use to > deliver > > higher performing products faster, at low TCO. > > http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 > > _______________________________________________ > > PyMOL-users mailing list > > PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn > developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson & Lucent use > to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. > http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=dnemail3 > _______________________________________________ > PyMOL-users mailing list > PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users >
