thank u very much again!

the problem is that the vina output is also stripped from the hydrogen ( i
don’t know why because I've made each ligand including hydrogens from the
initial.pdb where they were)

pythonsh ${tools}/prepare_ligand4.py -v -l ${mol2} -o
${ligands_out}/${filenamenoextention_lig}/${filenamenoextention_lig}.pdbqt
-A hydrogens_bonds

so antechamber will also send me error dealing with that stripped files :)

will the acpype available as some software not web server?

James

2014-09-17 16:27 GMT+02:00 Gianluca Santoni <gianluca.sant...@ibs.fr>:

> Sorry, I didn't get this important point.
>
> Have you tried to run antechamber using your vina output as an input?
> You could do something like
>
> grep HETATM output.pdbqt | cut -c1-66 > output.pdb
>
> and use acpype to prepare the topology, with output.pdb as an input file.
> https://code.google.com/p/acpype/
>
> This should work fine later to start your md simulations as it should
> conserve your docked coordinates.
>
> Cheers,
> Gian
>
>
> On 9/17/14 3:56 PM, James Starlight wrote:
>
>> all manual and GUI operations are not accepted here!
>> I'm dealing with the a huge number of protein-ligand complexes (many
>> many different proteins but only 1 ligand- so the situation is not very
>> bad !). But what is bad that I need to dock each complex using vina and
>> make its parametrization by amber
>>
>> :)
>>
>> James
>>
>> 2014-09-17 15:32 GMT+02:00 Gianluca Santoni <gianluca.sant...@ibs.fr
>> <mailto:gianluca.sant...@ibs.fr>>:
>>
>>
>>     Hi James,
>>     what usually worked for me was simply to do it manually, in editing
>> mode
>>     with pymol.
>>     Consider that you will perform an energy minimization after, so a few
>>     1/10 of angstroms of difference in your initial model are not a big
>>     deal, in my opinion.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>     Gian
>>
>>     On 9/17/14 3:17 PM, James Starlight wrote:
>>     > Hi Fotis,
>>     >
>>     > thank you very much for the suggestion!
>>     >
>>     > Indeed I have not had such problem with the preparation structure
>> for
>>     > NAMD but in case of amber its really exist (the structure of the
>> ligand
>>     > provided in the complex with the receptor.pdb must be EXACTLY the
>> same
>>     > as it was previously parametrized using some amber program called
>>     > antechamber).
>>     > So I will be interesting in two options
>>     > 1) to find some shell utility for superimposition of the 2 ligands
>> in
>>     > one-style command (because here I'm dealing with some script and I
>> need
>>     > to do it in loop many times)
>>     > or (which is better!)
>>     >
>>     > 2) use pdb2pqr software (because I'm using it in the part of this
>> script
>>     > to process complex and to add hydrogens to ligand as well)- here I
>>     > noticed that ligand should be provided as the separate .mol2 file
>> (not
>>     > pdb)- which is a bit not comfortable for me (because I obained all
>>     > docking poses from VINA as the pdb). I guess I should here to put
>> ligand
>>     > from complex, to convert it to mol2 and proceed 2 files (receptor
>> and
>>     > ligand) to the pdb2pqr. But may be the better solution is exist?
>>     >
>>     > James
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > 2014-09-17 12:32 GMT+02:00 Fotis Baltoumas <
>> fotis.baltou...@gmail.com <mailto:fotis.baltou...@gmail.com>
>>      > <mailto:fotis.baltou...@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:fotis.baltou...@gmail.com>>>:
>>     >
>>     >     Hello James,
>>     >     You can use the Pair Fitting wizard (Menu: Wizards=>Pair
>> Fitting) or
>>     >     the pair_fit command to superimpose small molecules. It's not as
>>     >     straightforward as protein super/align, since you have to
>> define the
>>     >     atom pairs that will be superimposed, but it's fairly easy.
>> After
>>     >     that, just make a selection of your receptor and your new
>> ligand and
>>     >     save it as a molecule.
>>     >
>>     >     However, I don't think you really have a problem here. Since the
>>     >     only issue you mention is the lack of hydrogen atoms, couldn't
>> you
>>     >     just reintroduce them through some function in the AmberTools? I
>>     >     have no experience with Amber parameterization tools but, if
>> they're
>>     >     even remotely like the PSF makers for CHARMM/X-PLOR/NAMD, then
>> they
>>     >     can add hydrogen atoms for you easily.
>>     >     Another option would be to create a PQR file, either through
>> PDB2PQR
>>     >     (http://nbcr-222.ucsd.edu/pdb2pqr_1.9.0/) or through the
>> APBSTools
>>     >     GUI in PyMOL. Part of the PQR creation includes adding hydrogen
>>     >     atoms, and you can use AMBER parameters both for proteins and
>> for
>>     >     ligands (mol2 format). Your result would be the structure of
>> your
>>     >     complex, with hydrogens, in the AMBER format.
>>     >
>>     >     Hope I helped,
>>     >     Fotis Baltoumas
>>     >
>>     >     2014-09-17 13:01 GMT+03:00 James Starlight <
>> jmsstarli...@gmail.com <mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com>
>>      >     <mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com <mailto:jmsstarli...@gmail.com
>> >>>:
>>
>>      >
>>      >         Dear Pymol users,
>>      >
>>      >         I've decide to make a copy of this topic from the amber
>> mail
>>      >         list because this problem could be solves by ones of the
>>     methods
>>      >         implemented in Pymol.
>>      >
>>      >         Here I'm facing with the problem of the preparation of
>>      >         protein-ligand complexes for amber md simulation:
>>      >         Following amber's tutorial I've made parametrization of the
>>      >         ligand using antechamber obtaining ligand.frcmod and
>>     ligand.lib
>>      >         files consisted of the parameters for my ligand and its
>>      >         coordinates in mol2 associated with those topologies. Now
>> I'd
>>      >         like to dock this ligand to the active site of the receptor
>>      >         using autodock vina and make further tleap processing of
>>      >         complex.pdb produced by autodock to obtain all input data
>> for
>>      >         simulation. Here some problems: because (superimposed to
>> the
>>      >         receptor cavity) ligand.pdb produced by autodock have been
>>      >         stripped from all hydrogen’s so its coordinates not equal
>> to
>>      >         initial ligand.mol2 . How do you think will it possible
>>     to use
>>      >         some method of the ligand superimposition to superimpose
>>     initial
>>      >         ligand.mol2 (with correct corrdinates) agains docking pose
>>      >         produced by vina and use superimposed ligand.mol2 for the
>>      >         preparation of my complex?
>>      >
>>      >         Thanks for help,
>>      >
>>      >         James
>>      >
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