Hi Carl, Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote: > Hi Christian, > > 2007/10/3, Christian Tismer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> to what extent has this been discussed? >> If this change is not commonly approved, >> then I'm asking you to change it to a proposed >> addition to the cleanup list, but open for >> discussion. >> This is public information, and before things >> are decided upon, I dislike to see misleading >> statements, which might turn into truth just >> by pretending they were true. > > RCTypes is causing problems since quite a while, I think it's not too > much to say that it seriously slowed PyPy's progress. Maybe it was a > necessary mistake to make to reach the rffi-solution we have now, of > which we think that it is a good one. rffi solves many of the problems > that rctypes had, and has mostly the same benefits: It's testable on > top of CPython, for example.
I do know every bit of that. This is not about the details. It is about how we handle a concern/veto from a valuated member. And this annoys me, the way how we handle it. > That RCTypes poses a problem is known since a long time. For a while > they were considered solvable, but that turned out to be very hard (if > not impossible). This was communicated in numerous ways, for example > this mail in August: > > http://codespeak.net/pipermail/pypy-dev/2007q3/003995.html > > to which nobody replied about the RCTypes issue. > > Note that I think it is fine to discuss the issue even now. But it is > very strange in my opinion to say now that it was never discussed. I think I just asked whether it was discussed at all. Please refrain from putting things into my mouth that I did not say. And I agree that it is fine to discuss the issue even now. I just think it is very strange if people appear to drive decisions for the whole consortium, when there is a complaint and no common sense in sight. That's why I asked if I missed a discussion and a general agreement, which is very possible. At least as long as I'm considered to belong to this consortium, I will always keep an eye on matters like these. (while this consideration is questionable as well) leaded a works committee for many years -- chris -- Christian Tismer :^) <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tismerysoft GmbH : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's Johannes-Niemeyer-Weg 9A : *Starship* http://starship.python.net/ 14109 Berlin : PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/ work +49 30 802 86 56 mobile +49 173 24 18 776 fax +49 30 80 90 57 05 PGP 0x57F3BF04 9064 F4E1 D754 C2FF 1619 305B C09C 5A3B 57F3 BF04 whom do you want to sponsor today? http://www.stackless.com/ _______________________________________________ [email protected] http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
