Hi Christian, 2007/10/4, Christian Tismer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Carl Friedrich Bolz wrote: > > RCTypes is causing problems since quite a while, I think it's not too > > much to say that it seriously slowed PyPy's progress. Maybe it was a > > necessary mistake to make to reach the rffi-solution we have now, of > > which we think that it is a good one. rffi solves many of the problems > > that rctypes had, and has mostly the same benefits: It's testable on > > top of CPython, for example. > > I do know every bit of that. This is not about the > details. It is about how we handle a concern/veto > from a valuated member. And this annoys me, the way how > we handle it.
I see. Well, I have to say that I was (until Simon's mail) completely unaware of what genrffi does. And judging from what he is saying it is not a "concern/veto" against rctypes at all, so I don't know what the problem here is. Besides the "concern/veto" was to my knowledge never voiced on the mailing list, so how could we have handled it? > > That RCTypes poses a problem is known since a long time. For a while > > they were considered solvable, but that turned out to be very hard (if > > not impossible). This was communicated in numerous ways, for example > > this mail in August: > > > > http://codespeak.net/pipermail/pypy-dev/2007q3/003995.html > > > > to which nobody replied about the RCTypes issue. > > > > Note that I think it is fine to discuss the issue even now. But it is > > very strange in my opinion to say now that it was never discussed. > > I think I just asked whether it was discussed at all. Please refrain > from putting things into my mouth that I did not say. > > And I agree that it is fine to discuss the issue even now. > > I just think it is very strange if people appear to drive > decisions for the whole consortium, when there is a complaint > and no common sense in sight. That's why I asked if I missed > a discussion and a general agreement, which is very possible. Sorry, but the complaint wasn't even visible to me until Simon's mail. I can only react to complaints I know about. Thus I find it strange that you say stuff like "there is no common sense in sight". It's possible that you knew about genrffi longer, but I didn't and I am not sure how I am supposed to have known about it. Cheers, Carl Friedrich _______________________________________________ [email protected] http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
