On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 13:37 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote: > On 6/26/11 12:27 PM, holger krekel wrote: > >Hi Christian, > > > >On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 17:51 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote: > >>On 6/22/11 7:30 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > >>>2011/6/22 Christian Tismer<[email protected]>: > >>>>Hi friends, > >>>> > >>>>the subject line says it all... > >>>> > >>>>I'm in the progress of updating stackless to use mercurial on > >>>>python.org and talked to Martin v. Loewis who pointed out > >>>>the restrictions of Bitbucket. > >>>>Besides the impression that Bitbucket is pretty slow, it is also not > >>>>possible to add our own hooks to it. > >>>The impression that Bitbucket is slow? What does that mean? I don't > >>>find python.org any faster than Bitbucket. > >>> > >>>>I'm pretty sure python.org would be happy to host PyPy. > >>>>Is there any good reason why we don't ask and move to python.org? > >>>I didn't do the mercurial transition, but I'm pretty happy with bitbucket. > >>This is no answer but an opinion ;-) > >> > >>I was asking why we don't use python.org instead of bitbucket. > >I don't remember any big comparison analysis. Some people > >pushed for bitbucket, a number was using it already, and the others > >didn't mind. The main effort and focus was on the conversion of the > >svn repository, anyway. > > > >>Before, we had codespeak.net which was very convenient because > >>I knew all relevant people in person. > >We have some personal contacts to bitbucket - they actually sponsor an > >unlimited plan for PyPy. Moreover, some pypy devs wanted a hosting > >solution where we do not depend on private connects or work but can > >rather rely on a company basing their business on such hosting. > > > > Well, I understand that all. > Maybe I was implicitly assuming that everybody felt like me: > It is an honor for Stackless Python to live on python.org, and > probably also a positive sign, like some acceptance by core python. > > That made me wonder. If I had a chance to use python.org instead > of anything else, I'd always prefer python.org, unless it has a significant > drawback, or they told me "no, go somewhere else" ;-) > >>Python used sourceforge before, but preferred to have the freedom > >>to host their data themselves. > >>By using python.org, PyPy would have similar convenience as > >>before. > >>Therefore my question: What makes bitbucket the better choice over > >>python.org, despite free t-shirts? (which might be an important reason > >>for some :-) ) > >PyPy has by now quite some integration code wrt to bitbucket. > >It seems all are quite happy with bitbucket services as it stands. > >So seen from now the question probably rather is why we should > >move anywhere else. > > Well, as said, I see a positive political effect in moving to python.org > that I (personally) would not underestimate.
I agree, it would have this positive political effect so that is clearly on the pro side. It did when i moved the mailing lists to mail.python.org. For what i know, we are welcome to move our repositories to python.org. > But PyPy is maybe popular enough that my point doesn't really exist, > or even vice versa - maybe the distinction is even welcome. ;-) Heh, dunno. At this stage it would cause some pain but not much technical gain to again move somewhere else. And i think a number of pypy devs are happy with not having to care or think about infrastructure issues or change of dev habits. cheers, holger holger > cheers - chris > > -- > Christian Tismer :^)<mailto:[email protected]> > tismerysoft GmbH : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's > Johannes-Niemeyer-Weg 9A : *Starship* http://starship.python.net/ > 14109 Berlin : PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/ > work +49 30 802 86 56 mobile +49 173 24 18 776 fax +49 30 80 90 57 05 > PGP 0x57F3BF04 9064 F4E1 D754 C2FF 1619 305B C09C 5A3B 57F3 BF04 > whom do you want to sponsor today? http://www.stackless.com/ > _______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
