Hi Ronny,

I heard you are very knowledgeable on hg and helped pypy
quite a lot. May I ask you for some help for stackless as well?
Are you on the stackless list?
Well, I'll contact you directly.

cheers - chris

On 6/27/11 7:40 AM, Ronny Pfannschmidt wrote:
Hi,

having a synced repo on python.org might be a help
however i wouldn't want push-permission handling there,
since we are probably a bit ore lax about giving new talents access to
the repo.

Simply having a synced repo on pythong.org might have a better effect
for visibility.

-- Ronny

On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 12:21 +0000, holger krekel wrote:
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 13:37 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote:
On 6/26/11 12:27 PM, holger krekel wrote:
Hi Christian,

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 17:51 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote:
On 6/22/11 7:30 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
2011/6/22 Christian Tismer<[email protected]>:
Hi friends,

the subject line says it all...

I'm in the progress of updating stackless to use mercurial on
python.org and talked to Martin v. Loewis who pointed out
the restrictions of Bitbucket.
Besides the impression that Bitbucket is pretty slow, it is also not
possible to add our own hooks to it.
The impression that Bitbucket is slow? What does that mean? I don't
find python.org any faster than Bitbucket.

I'm pretty sure python.org would be happy to host PyPy.
Is there any good reason why we don't ask and move to python.org?
I didn't do the mercurial transition, but I'm pretty happy with bitbucket.
This is no answer but an opinion ;-)

I was asking why we don't use python.org instead of bitbucket.
I don't remember any big comparison analysis. Some people
pushed for bitbucket, a number was using it already, and the others
didn't mind.  The main effort and focus was on the conversion of the
svn repository, anyway.

Before, we had codespeak.net which was very convenient because
I knew all relevant people in person.
We have some personal contacts to bitbucket - they actually sponsor an
unlimited plan for PyPy.  Moreover, some pypy devs wanted a hosting
solution where we do not depend on private connects or work but can
rather rely on a company basing their business on such hosting.

Well, I understand that all.
Maybe I was implicitly assuming that everybody felt like me:
It is an honor for Stackless Python to live on python.org, and
probably also a positive sign, like some acceptance by core python.

That made me wonder. If I had a chance to use python.org instead
of anything else, I'd always prefer python.org, unless it has a significant
drawback, or they told me "no, go somewhere else" ;-)
Python used sourceforge before, but preferred to have the freedom
to host their data themselves.
By using python.org, PyPy would have similar convenience as
before.
Therefore my question: What makes bitbucket the better choice over
python.org, despite free t-shirts?  (which might be an important reason
for some :-) )
PyPy has by now quite some integration code wrt to bitbucket.
It seems all are quite happy with bitbucket services as it stands.
So seen from now the question probably rather is why we should
move anywhere else.
Well, as said, I see a positive political effect in moving to python.org
that I (personally) would not underestimate.
I agree, it would have this positive political effect so that is clearly
on the pro side.  It did when i moved the mailing lists to mail.python.org.

For what i know, we are welcome to move our repositories to python.org.

But PyPy is maybe popular enough that my point doesn't really exist,
or even vice versa - maybe the distinction is even welcome. ;-)
Heh, dunno. At this stage it would cause some pain but not much technical
gain to again move somewhere else.  And i think a number of pypy devs
are happy with not having to care or think about infrastructure issues
or change of dev habits.

cheers,
holger



holger

cheers - chris

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