Hi,

having a synced repo on python.org might be a help
however i wouldn't want push-permission handling there,
since we are probably a bit ore lax about giving new talents access to
the repo.

Simply having a synced repo on pythong.org might have a better effect
for visibility.

-- Ronny 

On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 12:21 +0000, holger krekel wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 13:37 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote:
> > On 6/26/11 12:27 PM, holger krekel wrote:
> > >Hi Christian,
> > >
> > >On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 17:51 +0200, Christian Tismer wrote:
> > >>On 6/22/11 7:30 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> > >>>2011/6/22 Christian Tismer<[email protected]>:
> > >>>>Hi friends,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>the subject line says it all...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I'm in the progress of updating stackless to use mercurial on
> > >>>>python.org and talked to Martin v. Loewis who pointed out
> > >>>>the restrictions of Bitbucket.
> > >>>>Besides the impression that Bitbucket is pretty slow, it is also not
> > >>>>possible to add our own hooks to it.
> > >>>The impression that Bitbucket is slow? What does that mean? I don't
> > >>>find python.org any faster than Bitbucket.
> > >>>
> > >>>>I'm pretty sure python.org would be happy to host PyPy.
> > >>>>Is there any good reason why we don't ask and move to python.org?
> > >>>I didn't do the mercurial transition, but I'm pretty happy with 
> > >>>bitbucket.
> > >>This is no answer but an opinion ;-)
> > >>
> > >>I was asking why we don't use python.org instead of bitbucket.
> > >I don't remember any big comparison analysis. Some people
> > >pushed for bitbucket, a number was using it already, and the others
> > >didn't mind.  The main effort and focus was on the conversion of the
> > >svn repository, anyway.
> > >
> > >>Before, we had codespeak.net which was very convenient because
> > >>I knew all relevant people in person.
> > >We have some personal contacts to bitbucket - they actually sponsor an
> > >unlimited plan for PyPy.  Moreover, some pypy devs wanted a hosting
> > >solution where we do not depend on private connects or work but can
> > >rather rely on a company basing their business on such hosting.
> > >
> > 
> > Well, I understand that all.
> > Maybe I was implicitly assuming that everybody felt like me:
> > It is an honor for Stackless Python to live on python.org, and
> > probably also a positive sign, like some acceptance by core python.
> > 
> > That made me wonder. If I had a chance to use python.org instead
> > of anything else, I'd always prefer python.org, unless it has a significant
> > drawback, or they told me "no, go somewhere else" ;-)
> > >>Python used sourceforge before, but preferred to have the freedom
> > >>to host their data themselves.
> > >>By using python.org, PyPy would have similar convenience as
> > >>before.
> > >>Therefore my question: What makes bitbucket the better choice over
> > >>python.org, despite free t-shirts?  (which might be an important reason
> > >>for some :-) )
> > >PyPy has by now quite some integration code wrt to bitbucket.
> > >It seems all are quite happy with bitbucket services as it stands.
> > >So seen from now the question probably rather is why we should
> > >move anywhere else.
> > 
> > Well, as said, I see a positive political effect in moving to python.org
> > that I (personally) would not underestimate.
> 
> I agree, it would have this positive political effect so that is clearly
> on the pro side.  It did when i moved the mailing lists to mail.python.org.  
> 
> For what i know, we are welcome to move our repositories to python.org.
> 
> > But PyPy is maybe popular enough that my point doesn't really exist,
> > or even vice versa - maybe the distinction is even welcome. ;-)
> 
> Heh, dunno. At this stage it would cause some pain but not much technical
> gain to again move somewhere else.  And i think a number of pypy devs
> are happy with not having to care or think about infrastructure issues
> or change of dev habits.
> 
> cheers,
> holger
> 
> 
> 
> holger
> 
> > cheers - chris
> > 
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