On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:43 AM Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:32:44 -0800 > Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 3:02 PM Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 05:16:54PM -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: > > > > > > > It appears python is already python3 for a large majority of human users > > > > (as opposed to machines). > > > > > > > > https://www.jetbrains.com/research/python-developers-survey-2018/ > > > > Nearly 20000 valid responses, Oct-Nov. > > > > > > They may be valid responses, but we don't know if they are > > > representative of the broader Python community. Its a self-selected > > > survey of people which always makes the results statistically suspect. > > > > > > (By definition, an Internet survey eliminates responses from people who > > > don't fill out surveys on the Internet.) > > > > > > BUt even if representative, this survey only tells us what version > > > people are using, now how they invoke it. We can't conclude that the > > > command "python" means Python 3 for these users. We simply don't know > > > one way or another (and I personally wouldn't want to hazard a guess.) > > > > Can we gather data? What if pip started reporting info on how it was > > run when contacting pypi? > > The most important information pip should report is whether it's > running on a CI platform (should be doable by looking at a few > environment variables, at least for the most popular platforms). > Currently nobody knows what the PyPI download stats mean, because they > could be 99% human or 99% CI.
I agree :-) https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/5499#issuecomment-406840712 That's kind of orthogonal to this discussion though. -n -- Nathaniel J. Smith -- https://vorpus.org _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
