On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 1:37 PM Chris Jerdonek <chris.jerdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:45 AM Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't think this really works. A PEP has to present a consistent >>> view of the world, and works as a cohesive whole. Arguments against a >>> PEP don't form a PEP in themselves, they don't need to be consistent >>> with each other; they merely oppose a particular set of propositions. >>> So an "anti-PEP" would not be anything like a PEP; it would just be a >>> list of assorted arguments. >>> >> >> I agree, and that's what the Rejected Ideas section is supposed to >> capture. >> > > When I read the description of Rejected Ideas in PEP 1, it seems like it's > more for ideas that have been rejected that are still in line with the > overall PEP / motivation. > We can change PEP 1 if necessary to make people feel more comfortable in using the Rejected Ideas section to record objections. > It seems like what Mark is suggesting would fit better in a separate > "Arguments Against" section. I guess it would be possible to include > "reject the PEP" as a rejected idea or each individual argument against as > its own rejected "idea," but it would seem a little weird to me to organize > it that way. > I personally don't think so. "Don't do this PEP", to me, is still a rejected idea in the eyes of the PEP. 😉 -Brett > > I do see that PEP 1 says about the Rationale section: > > The rationale should provide evidence of consensus within the community >> and discuss important objections or concerns raised during discussion. > > > But what Mark is suggesting might be too large for the Rationale section. > > --Chris > > >> If a PEP is not keeping a record of what is discussed, including opposing >> views which the PEP is choosing not to accept, then that's a deficiency in >> the PEP and should be fixed. And if people feel their opposing view was not >> recorded properly, then that should be brought up. >> >>
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