On Sat., 27 Jun. 2020, 3:42 am Brett Cannon, <br...@python.org> wrote:

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> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 1:37 PM Chris Jerdonek <chris.jerdo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:52 AM Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:45 AM Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> I don't think this really works.  A PEP has to present a consistent
>>>> view of the world, and works as a cohesive whole.  Arguments against a
>>>> PEP don't form a PEP in themselves, they don't need to be consistent
>>>> with each other; they merely oppose a particular set of propositions.
>>>> So an "anti-PEP" would not be anything like a PEP; it would just be a
>>>> list of assorted arguments.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree, and that's what the Rejected Ideas section is supposed to
>>> capture.
>>>
>>
>> When I read the description of Rejected Ideas in PEP 1, it seems like
>> it's more for ideas that have been rejected that are still in line with the
>> overall PEP / motivation.
>>
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> We can change PEP 1 if necessary to make people feel more comfortable in
> using the Rejected Ideas section to record objections.
>


The most effective cases where I've seen this done have involved putting an
explicit "Do nothing" or "Preserve the status quo" heading under "Rejected
Ideas".

Another related element is to list folks that contribute significantly to
that aspect of the PEP in an Acknowledgements section - adding them as
co-authors doesn't make sense (as being listed as a co-author typically
implies endorsement), but having specific names listed helps people to feel
heard as long as they saw at least one of the listed names stating their
own objections during the discussion.

Cheers,
Nick.



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