On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:56 PM Tim Peters <tim.pet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [Ernest W. Durbin III <ern...@python.org>]
> > Reviewing, I may have misinterpreted the message from PSF Executive
> > Director regarding the situation.
> >
> > It does appear that python-ideas moderators contacted postmaster@.
> > Appears I misread a message saying “it looks like it’s happening on
> > python-dev too” to mean that the request was for both lists.
> >
> > Should I disable moderation on python-dev?
>
> It depends on who you want to annoy least ;-)
>
> If it's the position of the PSF that some kind(s) of messages must be
> suppressed, then I'll need a more-or-less clear definition, from them,
> of what those consist of.  At which point I'll agree to enforce them,
> or step down as a python-dev moderator.
>

Just to clarify: this had nothing to do with the PSF, but with the Steering
Council and the python-ideas moderators. We were discussing the PEP-8
"controversy" last night, after Titus (one of the python-ideas moderators)
asked about putting *that* list in full moderation, and we talked about how
the discussion had bled over into python-dev. We weren't clear among
ourselves which lists we were talking about anymore when we asked Ernest to
see about emergency moderation mode (which wasn't as easy as we would've
expected), which is why Ernest did it for both lists. We should've been
more careful about this, and looped in the python-dev moderators straight
away. Sorry about that.



>
> Otherwise, as I said, I've seen nothing on python-dev so far that I
> would have rejected.  So all "emergency moderation status" is doing
> for python-dev so far is annoying me with more email to go approve
> messages waiting in the queue, and to annoy those messages' senders
> with delays (waiting for moderator action).
>
> So it's not, in reality, accomplishing anything of value here.  So, if
> I were you, I'd disable emergency moderation status on python-dev.
> But then I'm old, retired, and notoriously pig-headed ;-)
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