[Ernest W. Durbin III <ern...@python.org>] >>> Reviewing, I may have misinterpreted the message from PSF Executive >>> Director regarding the situation. >>> >>> It does appear that python-ideas moderators contacted postmaster@. >>> Appears I misread a message saying “it looks like it’s happening on >>> python-dev too” to mean that the request was for both lists.
[Tim Peters] >> It depends on who you want to annoy least ;-) >> >> If it's the position of the PSF that some kind(s) of messages must be >> suppressed, then I'll need a more-or-less clear definition, from them, >> of what those consist of. At which point I'll agree to enforce them, >> or step down as a python-dev moderator. [Thomas Wouters <tho...@python.org>] > Just to clarify: this had nothing to do with the PSF, but with the > Steering Council My understanding is that the "PSF Executive Director" Ernest cited has nothing to do with the Steering Council, but with the PSF ;-) In any case, that's why I said "if it's the position of the PSF ...". > and the python-ideas moderators. We were discussing the PEP-8 "controversy" > last night, after Titus (one of the python-ideas moderators) asked about > putting < *that* list in full moderation, and we talked about how the discussion had bled > over into python-dev. We weren't clear among ourselves which lists we were > talking about anymore when we asked Ernest So it wasn't the PSF Executive Director. Regardless, same thing in the end to me: if someone who claims authority to do this wants to enforce some content suppression rules on python-dev, that's a business I'm very reluctant to get into, but can't judge without a clearer definition of what's out of bounds. I do OK with "spam" and "wholly off topic", but Python people telling each other their attitudes, beliefs, and/or behaviors are disgusting, unacceptable, evil ... strikes me as being a healthy (if unpleasant) family fight. I won't take a side on that in the moderation role. > to see about emergency moderation mode (which wasn't as easy as we > would've expected), To judge from the change I undid myself for python-dev, it appeared to amount to no more than putting ".*" in a regexp field to match all Subject lines. (To be clear, I undid this for python-dev; Ernest did not, so blame me - as the night wore on, I wanted to kill the change before I went to sleep, so people posting overnight (from my POV) wouldn't have to wait hours & hours for posts to go through.) > which is why Ernest did it for both lists. We should've been more careful > about this, and looped in the python-dev moderators straight away. Sorry > about that. Not a real problem! Just another minor computer-related busy-work annoyance, in a life overflowing with such for decade after decade after decade ;-) _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/AAXZP3GD6PWW36FNQLHUD545NM7W6MX4/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/