[Ernest W. Durbin III <ern...@python.org>]
>>> Reviewing, I may have misinterpreted the message from PSF Executive
>>> Director regarding the situation.
>>>
>>> It does appear that python-ideas moderators contacted postmaster@.
>>> Appears I misread a message saying “it looks like it’s happening on
>>> python-dev too” to mean that the request was for both lists.

[Tim Peters]
>> It depends on who you want to annoy least ;-)
>>
>> If it's the position of the PSF that some kind(s) of messages must be
>> suppressed, then I'll need a more-or-less clear definition, from them,
>> of what those consist of.  At which point I'll agree to enforce them,
>> or step down as a python-dev moderator.

[Thomas Wouters <tho...@python.org>]
> Just to clarify: this had nothing to do with the PSF, but with the
> Steering Council

My understanding is that the "PSF Executive Director" Ernest cited has
nothing to do with the Steering Council, but with the PSF ;-)  In any
case, that's why I said "if it's the position of the PSF ...".

> and the python-ideas moderators. We were discussing the PEP-8 "controversy"
> last night, after Titus (one of the python-ideas moderators) asked about 
> putting
< *that* list in full moderation, and we talked about how the
discussion had bled
> over into python-dev. We weren't clear among ourselves which lists we were
> talking about anymore when we asked Ernest

So it wasn't the PSF Executive Director.  Regardless, same thing in
the end to me:  if someone who claims authority to do this wants to
enforce some content suppression rules on python-dev, that's a
business I'm very reluctant to get into, but can't judge without a
clearer definition of what's out of bounds.

I do OK with "spam" and "wholly off topic", but Python people telling
each other their attitudes, beliefs, and/or behaviors are disgusting,
unacceptable, evil ... strikes me as being a healthy (if unpleasant)
family fight.  I won't take a side on that in the moderation role.

> to see about emergency moderation mode (which wasn't as easy as we
> would've expected),

To judge from the change I undid myself for python-dev, it appeared to
amount to no more than putting ".*" in a regexp field to match all
Subject lines. (To be clear, I undid this for python-dev; Ernest did
not, so blame me - as the night wore on, I wanted to kill the change
before I went to sleep, so people posting overnight (from my POV)
wouldn't have to wait hours & hours for posts to go through.)

> which is why Ernest did it for both lists. We should've been more careful
> about this, and looped in the python-dev moderators straight away. Sorry
> about that.

Not a real problem! Just another minor computer-related busy-work
annoyance, in a life overflowing with such for decade after decade
after decade ;-)
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