On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:36 PM Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> It needs to be pointed out that Thomas Wouters was recently re-elected > to the PSF board. I think we need to know whether Thomas speaks for the > entire PSF board.Giampaolo feared this: > > "It's gonna happen again and again, until everybody gets in line, shuts > up or leaves due to exhaustion." > > and Thomas replied: > > "I'm not sure how much more clear python-dev and the PSF could have been > that this is true." > > So is it true? Do the core devs and the PSF have a policy of > pushing divisive political changes to silence and force out of the > community people who are guilty of thought-crime and holding the wrong > opinion on political matters? > I wasn't speaking for the PSF or the Steering Council, nor was my intent to "silence or force out people guilty of thought-crime and holding the wrong opinion". > > I think that Thomas' post violated the CoC: > Please report all CoC violations to the CoC WG. > > * not open, considerate, or respectful; > > * dismissive of Giampaolo's efforts; > > * not respectful of differing viewpoints; > > * lacking empathy towards others with alternative perspectives. > > The CoC doesn't mention the word "tolerant" or "tolerance", but there > was nothing of either in Thomas' post. And coming from a PSF Board > member, I think that is extremely worrying. > > > Steven > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:42:40PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 11:52:52 +0200 > > Thomas Wouters <tho...@python.org> wrote: > > > > > > I'm not sure who 'our' is in this sentence, but I'm certainly not glad > > > Python ever took any of your patches. > > > > Really? > > > > You know, I don't care (and few people probably care) what you think > > personally of other core developers. But that you aren't even able to > > keep those thoughts for yourself and instead think it's ok to launch > > vitriolic attacks publicly, doesn't reflect very well on you. > > > > Personally, I'm glad Giampaolo contributes to the project, as well as > > to the community (psutil is invaluable). And I think you should just > > police yourself instead of attacking him personally. > > > > > We want to be more welcoming, not less -- > > > > But do you *personally*? You certainly do not sound like you want to be > > "more welcoming". Your belliquous attitude doesn't support that. You > > sound like you have an axe to grind. > > > > If your stated intentions are contradicted by your own behaviour, > > you're doing it wrong. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/BRVIF7HDKQ3KRRSBLNIETRUFINDOHIX3/ > > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/4HKNJ65YUMIEF4ESQ45TV47DS5QKJNB7/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > -- Thomas Wouters <tho...@python.org> Hi! I'm an email virus! Think twice before sending your email to help me spread!
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