I don’t see how the stable ABI works as a substitute for vendoring Python. A lot of other things can still vary even when the C API remains the same! (E.g. syntax, and stdlib behavior.)
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:49 Steve Dower <steve.do...@python.org> wrote: > On 6/9/2021 2:20 PM, Petr Viktorin wrote: > > On 09. 06. 21 13:09, Paul Moore wrote: > >> Also, I often use the stable ABI when embedding, so that > >> I can replace the Python interpreter without needing to recompile my > >> application and redeploy new binaries everywhere (my use case is > >> pretty niche, though, so I wouldn't like to claim I represent a > >> typical user...). > > > > I hope this use case becomes non-niche. I would love it if embedders > > tell people to just use any Python they have lying around, instead of > > vendoring it (or more realistically, embedding JS or Lua instead). > > I also hope it becomes non-niche, but I'd rather you started > embedding/vendoring CPython rather than using anything that just happens > to be laying around. > > The number one issue that *all* of my customers (and their customers) > have is installation. For most of them, the best way to solve it is to > not make them install Python themselves, which in many cases means > vendoring. The more acceptable and easy we can make this process, the > more Python will be a viable choice against JS or Lua (though with all > the other C API, threading and initialization issues, it's unlikely that > embedding CPython is going to become significantly more attractive than > those two - even IronPython still lives on for embedding because it > works so well). > > Cheers, > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/36MZXQC3WGDXO6SFTPGT7RC34EMFPP6E/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > -- --Guido (mobile)
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