On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 3:20 AM Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 10:07:13AM -0500, Paul Ganssle wrote:
>
> > I knew about sortedcontainers and I also don't remember ever seeing a
> > situation where I needed one or recommended its use.
>
> We have a very odd situation where apparently sortedcontainers is one
> of the most well-known, popular, most heavily downloaded libraries on
> PyPI. According to here:
>
> https://hugovk.github.io/top-pypi-packages/
>
> sortedcontainers is the 290th most popular package on PyPI, ahead of
> such luminaries as pylint, black, selenium, mypy, django and nose.
>
> And yet, nobody(?) admits to either using it or knowing what it could be
> used for. How very curious :-/
>

I think that proves the value of download counts: very little. The
highest on the list is a thing called botocore, which I've never heard
of. What is it? It's a dependency of a number of Amazon web services.
My guess is that it's a dependency of popular tools - or maybe of
automatically-installed tools, even - while not itself being well
known. Actually, quite a few of the most popular packages on that list
are Amazon-related, so quite possibly they're all being installed as a
set in response to one single *actual* dependency.

(Download counts DO most likely indicate that something is heavily
used, though, so if people are trying to plan out a benchmark suite,
then that might be more useful. But I'm not really surprised that a
heavily-downloaded package isn't itself well known.)

ChrisA
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