On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote: > Le mercredi 26 mai 2010 à 13:19 +0100, Paul Moore a écrit : >> >> I'm not sure how a "Sumo" approach would work in practical terms, and >> this thread isn't really the place to discuss, but there's a couple of >> points I think are worth making: >> >> * For a "Sumo" distribution to make sense, some relatively substantial >> chunk of the standard library would need to be moved *out* to reside >> in the sumo distribution. Otherwise it's not really a "sumo", just a >> couple of modules that "nearly made it into the stdlib", at least for >> the near-to-medium term. > > This is not what I'm suggesting at all. The stdlib wouldn't shrink > (well, we could dump outdated modules but that's a separate decision). > > A hypothetical "Sumo" distribution would be made of those more or less > useful modules that many people (application or framework developers; > for example, take a look at the dozens of direct and indirect > dependencies TurboGears pulls in) need and install. > > The whole point is that it would *not* be supported by python-dev itself > but by a separate group of people (such as you :-)). > And it would have its own rules (surely more relaxed) over inclusion or > deprecation delays, the ability to make compatibility-breaking changes, > release timings, multiple obvious ways to do the same thing, etc. > > And it means it could really bundle a lot of third-party stuff: small > helpers (things like the decorator module), event loops, template > engines, network address abstractions, argument parsers, ORMs, UI > toolkits, etc. > > (a side-effect would be that it could, if it works well, behave as a > good intermediate stress test - a purgatory, if you want - for modules > before they integrate the stdlib) > > If you want an existing analogy, you could look at EasyPHP. Or think of > Python as the Gnome or KDE project (consistent and aiming at providing > the most important everyday tools, but quite focused), and "Sumo" as an > entire distribution of disparate Linux GUI apps. > > Regards > > Antoine.
I'd also point out that creating a sumo distribution would focus attention on the need to port those libraries which were a part of it to python3, which would help to weaken the argument that there aren't any packages written for it. Geremy Condra _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
