On 01.05.2012 17:48, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> * PEP 397: Python launcher for Windows > > I hope to submit a rewrite of this PEP RSN.
Good to hear. >> Also, if I missed any obvious candidate PEP or change, please let me know. > > A big pending change is the switch to a new Visual Studio release. The > challenge here is that we need to stop using the outdated VS 2008, but > then, VS 2010 will soon be outdated as well, so it would be sad (IMO) > if we switch from one outdated tool to the next. > > Therefore, I would really like to see Python 3.3 use VS 2012, except > that this won't be released for a few more months (the release is likely > along with the release for Windows 8, which likely happens "this > summer"). > > So what specific VS release we use may depend on whether there will be > another alpha release or not (but it may also be that another alpha > release still won't buy enough time, so that we use VS 2008 for 2.7, > VS 2010 for 3.3, and VS 2012 for 3.4). Do you know when a more detailed schedule for VS 2012 will be available (and confirmation regarding XP support)? While I agree that it would be best to use the most up-to-date toolchain, we shouldn't defer the beta stage indefinitely if there is no concrete date set. > P.S. There is (as of yet unconfirmed) rumor that VS 2012 won't support > XP, which would clearly rule it out for Python 3.3, and likely also for > 3.4. It also appears that VS 2012 might include the VS 2010 tool chain, > which means that this tool chain won't be that outdated. > > P.P.S. this affects primarily the build files and the packaging, > but then also affects distutils etc., and the buildbots - for the > latter, switching the VS version likely means that all Windows buildbots > will break, likely requiring several months for them to come back. Which is definitely not something we want to do during beta stage. Georg _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com