On 2013-03-20, at 21:14 , Eli Bendersky wrote: >>> Agreed that the "sync into stdlib" think should not happen, or should at > >>>> best be a temporary measure until we can remove idle from the source >>>> tarball (maybe at the 3.4 release, otherwise at 3.5). >>> >>> Right. Ultimately, I think IDLE should be a separate project entirely, >> but I >>> guess there's push back against that too. >> >> The problem with it is, well, that it's a separate project so unless it >> is still packaged in (in which case it's not quite separate project, >> just a separate source tree) it's got to be downloaded and installed >> separately. >> >> That would be a blow to educators, but also Windows users: while the CLI >> works very nicely in unices, that's not the case with the win32 console >> which is as best as I can describe it a complete turd, making IDLE a >> very nice proposition there (I never use IDLE on Linux or OSX, but do >> all the time in Windows). It also provides a rather capable (and in many >> case sufficient) code editor for a platform which lacks any form of >> native text editor allowing sane edition of code. >> >> Installing the Python windows packages and having everything "work" (in >> the sense that you can immediately start writing and running python >> code) is — I think — a pretty big feature. > > > Oh, and another thing. If a Windows user wants a good Python shell, IDLE > should be his last choice. There's Spyder, there's IPython, there's > probably a bunch of others I'm not aware of.
Sure, there are plenty of tools for the experienced python developer with reasons to invest time in a windows development setup, but IDLE provides an acceptable low-cost and low-investment base which is *there*: it does not require spending a day downloading, trying out and getting familiar with a dozen different Python IDEs, it's simple and for the most part it works. I view it as an mg, not an emacs, if you see what I mean. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
