On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> wrote:
> On 3/20/2013 11:54 PM, Eli Bendersky wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Terry Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu >> > > Ugly is subjective: by what standard and compared to what? >> >> Compared to other existing Python IDEs and shells which are layered on >> top of modern GUI toolkits that are actively developed to keep with >> modern standards, unlike Tk which is frozen in the 1990s. >> > > I think being frozen in the late 1990s is better than being frozen in the > early 1980s, like Command Prompt is. In fact, I think we should 'deprecate' > the Command Prompt interpreter as the standard interactive interpreter and > finish polishing and de-glitching IDLE's Python Shell, which runs on top of > the windowless version of CP with a true GUI. Then we can promote and > present the latter as the preferred interface, which for many people, it > already is. There are two discussions being held in parallel here: 1. Whether IDLE should be developed separately from the core Python repository (while still being shipped). 2. Whether IDLE is bad in a general sense and should die. I've stated several times now that it's (1) that I'm interested in. (2) is too subjective, and frankly I'm not in a good position to argue from an objective point of view. As Antoine mentioned, "feeling" should not be dismissed (especially if it resonates from a number of developers). That said, I'm not going to continue to talk about (2). I really want to constructively focus on (1). Eli
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