> On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
> 
> On Mon Nov 24 2014 at 2:25:30 AM Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> That
> outcome would be the antithesis of the PSF's overall mission, 
> 
> This might be a little controversial, but the PSF's mission should not 
> influence a decision of python-dev. If we had to break a tie then yes, I 
> would choose the Python-based solution. But if a superior solution existed 
> and it just happened to not be written in Python I'm not going to sacrifice 
> productivity and the overall health of the project just to promote an 
> inferior tool because they happened to choose Python.
> 
> The only reason we didn't go with Jira for our issue tracker was because of 
> pressure to not go with a closed-source solution and I was promised 
> volunteers from the FSF to help manage our issue tracker (which never 
> materialized, BTW).

This is really what I’m trying to do but I’m apparently not getting my point 
across very well. I want us to pick the best tool for the job regardless of 
what language it’s written in. I just so happen to think that the best tool for 
the job in this case is Github.

> Yes, I object strongly to the use of GitHub when there are
> commercially supported services written in Python like BitBucket and
> RhodeCode available if we want to go the external hosting route, and
> other options like the RhodeCode derived Kallithea if we want to run a
> self-hosted forge. RhodeCode are even PSF sponsors - I'm sure they'd
> be willing to discuss the possibility of hosting core development
> repos on their service.
> 
> That's fine if they want to talk about free support, but being a PSF sponsor 
> should not play into it in the slightest, else it's like buying influence.

Agreed here too (even then, Github has been a PyCon sponsor for awhile and has 
even ran their own Python conference in the past). I think it’s kind of shitty 
to reject and demean someone who has supported the Python community through 
various means just because their primary language isn’t Python.

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Donald Stufft
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