On 04/14/2016 06:56 AM, Victor Stinner wrote:
2016-04-14 15:40 GMT+02:00 Nick Coghlan:
>> Even earlier, Victor Stinner wrote:

I consider that the final goal of the whole discussion is to support
something like:

     path = os.path.join(pathlib_path, "str_path", direntry)

That's not a *new* problem though, it already exists if you pass in a
mix of bytes and str:
(...)
There's also already a solution (regardless of whether you want bytes
or str as the result), which is to explicitly coerce all the arguments
to the same type:

--> os.path.join(*map(os.fsdecode, ("str", b"bytes")))
(...)

I don't understand. What is the point of adding a new __fspath__
protocol to *implicitly* convert path objects to strings, if you still
have to use an explicit conversion?

That's the crux of the issue -- some of us think the job of __fspath__ is to simply retrieve the inherent data from the pathy object, *not* to do any implicit conversions.

I would really expect that a high-level API like pathlib would solve
encodings issues for me. IMHO DirEntry entries created by
os.scandir(bytes) must use os.fsdecode() in their __fspath__ method.

Then let pathlib do it. As a high-level interface I have no issue with pathlib converting DirEntry bytes objects to str using fsdecode (or whatever makes sense); os.path.join (and by extension os.fspath and __fspath__) should do no such thing.

os.path.join(*map(os.fsdecode, ("str", b"bytes")))

This code is quite complex for a newbie, don't you think so?

A newbie should be using pathlib. If pathlib is not low-level enough, then the newbie needs to learn about low-level stuff.

--
~Ethan~
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