For all intents and purposes other than debugging C (for cpython, rpython for pypy, java for jython, .NET for IronPython... you get the idea), the extra details are unnecessary to debug most problems. Most of the time it is sufficient to know what major, minor, and patchlevel you are using. You only really need to know the commit hash and compiler if you are sending a bug report about the C... and since you know when you are doing that... I don't think its uncalled for to have the one liner.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Python-ideas [mailto:python-ideas-bounces+tritium- > list=sdamon....@python.org] On Behalf Of INADA Naoki > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:40 AM > To: python-ideas <python-ideas@python.org> > Subject: [Python-ideas] Show more info when `python -vV` > > When reporting issue to some project and want to include > python version in the report, python -V shows very limited information. > > $ ./python.exe -V > Python 3.6.0b2+ > > sys.version is more usable, but it requires one liner. > > $ ./python.exe -c 'import sys; print(sys.version)' > 3.6.0b2+ (3.6:86a1905ea28d+, Oct 13 2016, 17:58:37) > [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 8.0.0 (clang-800.0.38)] > > How about `python -vV` shows sys.version? > > > perl -V is very verbose and it's helpful to be included in bug report. > Some of them are useful and worth enough to include in `python -vV`. > > $ perl -V > Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 18 subversion 2) configuration: > > Platform: > osname=darwin, osvers=15.0, archname=darwin-thread-multi-2level > uname='darwin osx219.apple.com 15.0 darwin kernel version 15.0.0: > fri may 22 22:03:51 pdt 2015; > root:xnu-3216.0.0.1.11~1development_x86_64 x86_64 ' > config_args='-ds -e -Dprefix=/usr -Dccflags=-g -pipe -Dldflags= > -Dman3ext=3pm -Duseithreads -Duseshrplib -Dinc_version_list=none > -Dcc=cc' > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > useithreads=define, usemultiplicity=define > useperlio=define, d_sfio=undef, uselargefiles=define, usesocks=undef > use64bitint=define, use64bitall=define, uselongdouble=undef > usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef > Compiler: > cc='cc', ccflags ='-arch i386 -arch x86_64 -g -pipe -fno-common > -DPERL_DARWIN -fno-strict-aliasing -fstack-protector', > optimize='-Os', > cppflags='-g -pipe -fno-common -DPERL_DARWIN -fno-strict-aliasing > -fstack-protector' > ccversion='', gccversion='4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.0.0 > (clang-700.0.59.1)', gccosandvers='' > intsize=4, longsize=8, ptrsize=8, doublesize=8, byteorder=12345678 > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=16 > ivtype='long', ivsize=8, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', > lseeksize=8 > alignbytes=8, prototype=define > Linker and Libraries: > ld='cc -mmacosx-version-min=10.11.3', ldflags ='-arch i386 -arch > x86_64 -fstack-protector' > libpth=/usr/lib /usr/local/lib > libs= > perllibs= > libc=, so=dylib, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.dylib > gnulibc_version='' > Dynamic Linking: > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=bundle, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' ' > cccdlflags=' ', lddlflags='-arch i386 -arch x86_64 -bundle > -undefined dynamic_lookup -fstack-protector' > > > Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): > Compile-time options: HAS_TIMES MULTIPLICITY PERLIO_LAYERS > PERL_DONT_CREATE_GVSV > PERL_HASH_FUNC_ONE_AT_A_TIME_HARD > PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT PERL_MALLOC_WRAP > PERL_PRESERVE_IVUV PERL_SAWAMPERSAND USE_64_BIT_ALL > USE_64_BIT_INT USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES > USE_LOCALE USE_LOCALE_COLLATE USE_LOCALE_CTYPE > USE_LOCALE_NUMERIC USE_PERLIO USE_PERL_ATOF > USE_REENTRANT_API > Locally applied patches: > /Library/Perl/Updates/<version> comes before system perl directories > installprivlib and installarchlib points to the Updates directory > Built under darwin > Compiled at Aug 11 2015 04:22:26 > @INC: > /Library/Perl/5.18/darwin-thread-multi-2level > /Library/Perl/5.18 > /Network/Library/Perl/5.18/darwin-thread-multi-2level > /Network/Library/Perl/5.18 > /Library/Perl/Updates/5.18.2 > /System/Library/Perl/5.18/darwin-thread-multi-2level > /System/Library/Perl/5.18 > /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.18/darwin-thread-multi-2level > /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.18 > . > > -- > INADA Naoki <songofaca...@gmail.com> > _______________________________________________ > Python-ideas mailing list > Python-ideas@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
