@Paul Moor, I agree with you. Personally, I'd rather not use it, and if it
was used in an importable module I'd claim it was bad practice.

But in general I don't think there is a right answer of if you *should *or
not. I think it is valid for personal preferences to vary here. If this is
something someone forgets to do a lot (and everyone has their own personal
quirks about what's hard/easy for them to remember), then it could be
annoying to the point where this feature could really help them.

But yes, in most cases I'd rather not use it, and I would get peeved if
someone's code they advertised as reusable used this (but then again I also
get peeved when people execute print statements at import time).



On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 at 20:43, Jonathan Crall <erote...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > @Chris Angelico If you are more application focused, or trying to get a
> scientific result, and you don't care too much about the reusability of
> your scripts, then I can see the validity of this use case. But I would not
> want to install a module on pypi that made use of this. From a software
> perspective this is 100% bad practice, but from a practitioner perspective
> --- and there are a lot of practitioners that only use Python as a tool
> (like a DSL) --- I can see wanting it.
> >
> > So, that's the question: does the Python stdlib want to let you do this?
> Will the number of software engineers who use this incorrectly outweigh the
> number of people who seem to want this for a valid reason? I'm not sure
> what the answer is.
> >
> > FWIW executing `print('\x1b[H\x1b[2J\x1b[3J')` in my IPython terminal
> cleared the screen.
>
> Why would you want to put this in your script, so that you have no
> choice (short of editing the script) as to whether it happens? Surely
> better to clear your terminal from the command prompt *before* running
> your script? Yes, you can forget, but I'd rather forget occasionally
> than lose essential data because I ran a script that I'd forgotten has
> an os.clear() at the top...
>
> I suspect Guido's right, it's asked for often enough, and fiddly
> enough to write, that adding it is a net gain. But I'd be very
> unlikely to use it myself, and I'd strongly advise people against
> using it if asked.
>
> Paul
>


-- 
-Dr. Jon Crall (him)
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