On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 03:15:32AM +0100, Rob Cliffe wrote:

> Why do people keep obscuring the discussion of a PEP which addresses 
> Problem A by throwing in discussion of the (unrelated) Problem B?
> (Chris, and I, have stated, ad nauseam, that these *are* unrelated 
> problems.

Chris says:

"Even if Python does later on grow a generalized lazy evaluation
feature, it will only change the *implementation* of late-bound
argument defaults, not their specification."

So you are mistaken that they are unrelated.

Chris could end this debate (and start a whole new one!) by going to the 
Python-Dev mailing list and asking for a sponsor, and if he gets one, 
for the Steering Council to make a ruling on the PEP. He doesn't *need* 
consensus on Python-Ideas. (Truth is, we should not expect 100% 
agreement on any new feature.)

But any arguments, questions and criticisms here which aren't resolved 
will just have to be re-hashed when the core devs and the Steering 
Council read the PEP. They can't be swept under the carpet.


-- 
Steve
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