What I meant is that it is not affected by prejudices to such a degree that a 'challenger' wanted to make it look.
“I find it more readable” is a fair statement. The recognition of subjectivity is very transparent in it. In other words, such statement is not trying to be bigger than it actually is. I realise that. I actually sometimes do use conditional `ifelse` and well aware of it’s existence. I am just trying to connect dots here. Some proposals here are answered very clearly and in line with: "There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.” And some fall into category “there are workarounds, just deal with it". As I said, it seems that (at least to me) there is a big part of them that are pointing towards this direction - those that are confused about the elegant and simple way of doing certain simple things. Maybe this 20-year late discussion will have some impact on future python expressions. E.g. some new expression will be a superset of `ifelse` and this will be taken into account. Maybe not, but hopefully it had at least a bit of positive value. > On 18 Jul 2023, at 01:49, Christopher Barker <python...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 04:37, Dom Grigonis <dom.grigo...@gmail.com > <mailto:dom.grigo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > This is why, I would dare to say that this preference of mine is not > > affected by prejudices. > > Of course it's affected by prejudices -- all our preferences are. A sample of > one "I find it more readable" is about as useful as any sample of one to > represent a population. > > Personally, I find the C syntax completely opaque and the Python syntax > totally understandable the first time I saw it -- and it's very much more > "Pythonic". > > But that's influenced by my prejudice. > > But anyway, this conversation is 20 (!) years too late[*] -- and it did take > place then. It's not going to change now. > > -CHB > > [*] https://peps.python.org/pep-0308/ <https://peps.python.org/pep-0308/> > > > -- > Christopher Barker, PhD (Chris) > > Python Language Consulting > - Teaching > - Scientific Software Development > - Desktop GUI and Web Development > - wxPython, numpy, scipy, Cython > _______________________________________________ > Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/YQGA4KWF7G4I32GZNYLWQ2EIZOHMEZJY/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
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