On 27/02/2018 5:40 am, Vernon D. Cole wrote:
Second: the effective "bus size" of the adodbapi repo is *one*. The other three authorized maintainers are inactive.  Indeed, the way I got approved as a maintainer 15 years ago (has it really been that long?) was to document to SourceForge that the then-existing two maintainers were unresponsive. Moving the working source into the pywin32 repo would solve that problem.

It's not immediately clear that it would though. pywin32 itself has the exact same issue (ie, it's largely just me), and I don't use or know much about adodbapi - so it seems somewhat likely you'd have the same "bus size" - just on a different bus :)

My research this morning suggests that by suitable editing of the MANIFEST.in file in the pywin32 root, and the  /adodbapi/MANIFEST.in and ./setup.py we could effectively send two seemingly independent (but source locked) versions of adodbapi to PyPi.  That should keep both CPython/pywin32 and IronPython use cases covered.  Should I pursue that?

When building pywin32 I don't send *any* versions of adodbapi to pypi, so I'm really not sure what that means. I'm reluctant to agree that building pywin32 will create many discrete wheels - I already need to upload wheels for each python version supported and for 64 and 32 bits and making the build and release process more convoluted doesn't sound like a win for me.

So can you please explain in more detail what is being proposed here, and why it would be preferred to splitting adodbapi into its own repo on github, possibly including removal of it from pywin32 if the duplication causes problems?

Cheers,

Mark

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Vernon


I spent the morning reviewing the documentation for setuptools and wheels and such.



On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Bob Kline <bkl...@rksystems.com <mailto:bkl...@rksystems.com>> wrote:

    On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Mark Hammond
    <mhamm...@skippinet.com.au <mailto:mhamm...@skippinet.com.au>> wrote:

    > 1) There's a relatively easy fix that can be made to the copy of adodbapi
    > which is inside pywin32.

    Right. Basically, I think what needs to happen is for the fork on
    GitHub to be brought in sync with the working code on SF. I'm going to
    guess it's not quite as simple as that, because we'd want to be
    careful to preserve any patches which got applied on GitHub, but
    didn't make it to the original repo. Don't know for sure that there
    are any, but we should check.

    > 2) There's a concern regarding some IronPython bindings for adodbapi which
    > aren't in pywin32 and Vernon was asking something whether they should also
    > be included in pywin32.

    As I understand it, the code to support IronPython is already included
    in what's on GitHub. I think Vernon's hoping that there's a way to
    script an export of just the adodbapi portion of your GitHub repo for
    the use of the IronPython users (who, as you correctly point out, have
    no use for the pywin32 bits). If that's possible (and I can't see why
    it wouldn't be, as GitHub is pretty easy to script), he would be able
    to avoid the tedium and risks involved in having to maintain the same
    code base in two different places. It would also eliminate the "where
    am I supposed to file bugs" confusion, as well as make it easier to
    persuade others to assist with maintenance of the code. Most of the
    adodbapi code is common for IronPython and CPython users, and I don't
    see that the presence of "if IronPython: ..." code in the
    mhammond/pywin32 repo does any harm (after all, it's already there and
    I'll bet no one has noticed).

    I hope that makes things a little clearer. But this explanation is
    speculation on my part, and I should really let Vernon say what he
    means for #2.

    Regards,
    Bob



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