I completely understand what you mean Justin and it's sound advice.  ;-)

If I want to debug or create thing specific to Maya using only MEL, that is when MEL knowledge is effective. I have begun learning Python, and C++ is a nice option, I won't jump that far ahead.

Like my post a few weeks ago, whereas I asked someone to create a UI out of a script. The reason was, it is a script I will use frequently; and I understand asking the community to make UI of scripts, without me making a starting point, is ridicules, and honestly I want to know how to do it. It just was a one time thing a script in which I wanted a UI created, maybe I should have mentioned it won't be an ongoing issue rather a novice programmer asking the community if he can get just a little more finesse applied to a script.

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Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:38 AM


On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 4:21 PM Crest Christopher <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I know, I've been told this, then on the other hand, I've been
    told, learn both.  It's a tug-of-war !

MEL isn't useful outside of Maya. You can use Python beyond just the Maya platform. And if for some reason Maya's python commands API really isn't fast enough for a given problem, then you can move to a C++ plugin.

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        Really, there is no reason to learn and study MEL. Just do
        python training.


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        On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 1:21 PM Christopher.
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            I have documentation on MEL.  Did you read this book ? The
            book comes across as though you are calling me stupid ?
            ;-) A ten plus year old book still costs almost $60, and
            the kindle is the same.  I suppose I should know a little
            C++ if I get this book.


        I highly doubt Marcus was trying to insult your intelligence
        by suggesting a book. He is one of the most helpful members of
        this group.

        The intent, as I saw it, was to offer you ways to improve your
        foundation in programming. We are all happy to help with
        questions, but we can't always teach from scratch when there
        are tons of resources to get a baseline in Mel or python. But
        if you ask very clear detailed questions, you will get clear
        and detailed answers (hopefully)


            In the meantime, instead of me waiting to buy a book, if I
            buy the book, someone willing to give me a clue on what
            I'm doing wrong, yes I may ask novice questions, I do
            appreciate the help.

            On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-4, Marcus
            Ottosson wrote:


                The american site seems to have more favourable reviews.

                - http://amzn.com/1558608354



                On 12 June 2015 at 17:51, Marcus Ottosson
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    I’d suggest you have a glance at this book, it
                    covers both basics and advanced use of MEL, and is
                    a good introduction to programming with Maya overall.

                    
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Maya-Programming-Extensive-Kaufmann/dp/1558608354


                    ​




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                        Do you not make objects as strings in MEL ?
                        For example;

                        string $one = "pSphere1";

                        string $two = "pCube1";

                        Or just alone var as such; $one = "pSphere1";


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        I have documentation on MEL.  Did you read this book ? The
        book comes across as though you are calling me stupid ? ;-) A
        ten plus year old book still costs almost $60, and the kindle
        is the same.  I suppose I should know a little C++ if I get
        this book.


        In the meantime, instead of me waiting to buy a book, if I buy
        the book, someone willing to give me a clue on what I'm doing
        wrong, yes I may ask novice questions, I do appreciate the help.

        On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-4, Marcus Ottosson
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Really, there is no reason to learn and study MEL. Just do python training.


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It's that, I have a few MEL ebook style documents, they appear informative, although I haven't read them cover to cover, what may the book have that these documents don't have, besides a price tag.

Justin Israel wrote:
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 1:21 PM Christopher. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I have documentation on MEL.  Did you read this book ? The book
    comes across as though you are calling me stupid ? ;-) A ten plus
year old book still costs almost $60, and the kindle is the same. I suppose I should know a little C++ if I get this book.

I highly doubt Marcus was trying to insult your intelligence by suggesting a book. He is one of the most helpful members of this group.

The intent, as I saw it, was to offer you ways to improve your foundation in programming. We are all happy to help with questions, but we can't always teach from scratch when there are tons of resources to get a baseline in Mel or python. But if you ask very clear detailed questions, you will get clear and detailed answers (hopefully)


    In the meantime, instead of me waiting to buy a book, if I buy the
    book, someone willing to give me a clue on what I'm doing wrong,
    yes I may ask novice questions, I do appreciate the help.

    On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-4, Marcus Ottosson wrote:

        The american site seems to have more favourable reviews.

        - http://amzn.com/1558608354


        On 12 June 2015 at 17:51, Marcus Ottosson <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


            I’d suggest you have a glance at this book, it covers both
            basics and advanced use of MEL, and is a good introduction
            to programming with Maya overall.

            
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Maya-Programming-Extensive-Kaufmann/dp/1558608354


            ​



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                Do you not make objects as strings in MEL ? For example;

                string $one = "pSphere1";

                string $two = "pCube1";

                Or just alone var as such; $one = "pSphere1";

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I have documentation on MEL. Did you read this book ? The book comes across as though you are calling me stupid ? ;-) A ten plus year old book still costs almost $60, and the kindle is the same. I suppose I should know a little C++ if I get this book.

In the meantime, instead of me waiting to buy a book, if I buy the book, someone willing to give me a clue on what I'm doing wrong, yes I may ask novice questions, I do appreciate the help.


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