I'm 200% with Justin on this one! If you learn maya python, you'll learn the maya guts as well as if you learn mel, plus a lot that will be usefull outside of maya. And applying this knowledge to debug/modify a mel script should be trivial, as maya python is really 99% a one to one copy of all mel commands.
Don't attach yourself the mel boulder to your ankle, especially if you start programming maya, you'll regret it later (as we do in our studio, because of late adoption, you know, lack of time in pre-production, etc, etc...) This is really my 2cts, but if you poll this subject, I think you should end up with the 'go python' winning... Cheers Nicolas 2015-06-13 14:09 GMT+02:00 Crest Christopher <[email protected]>: > I completely understand what you mean Justin and it's sound advice. ;-) > > If I want to debug or create thing specific to Maya using only MEL, that > is when MEL knowledge is effective. I have begun learning Python, and C++ > is a nice option, I won't jump that far ahead. > > Like my post a few weeks ago, whereas I asked someone to create a UI out > of a script. The reason was, it is a script I will use frequently; and I > understand asking the community to make UI of scripts, without me making a > starting point, is ridicules, and honestly I want to know how to do it. It > just was a one time thing a script in which I wanted a UI created, maybe I > should have mentioned it won't be an ongoing issue rather a novice > programmer asking the community if he can get just a little more finesse > applied to a script. > > Justin Israel <[email protected]> > Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:38 AM > > > On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 4:21 PM Crest Christopher <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I know, I've been told this, then on the other hand, I've been told, learn > both. It's a tug-of-war ! > > MEL isn't useful outside of Maya. You can use Python beyond just the Maya > platform. And if for some reason Maya's python commands API really isn't > fast enough for a given problem, then you can move to a C++ plugin. > > <img src=" > https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=a7eb1b7682&attid=0.1.1&th=14deb2678fd6616f&view=fimg&rm=14deb2678fd6616f&sz=w1600-h1000&attbid=ANGjdJ_LUgFom3LQVbdV3uti_asHljmHPjtKf0f0KRxilYjbHWAH6Ul3xUZPOZsqjPpkAi7TXxYjO4IlWl_Kmp9M9OZFHZMrpSAAqOjPHWO_9gmQCrXrEFPH0DZraaE&disp=emb&zw > "> > > Justin Israel <[email protected]> > > Friday, June 12, 2015 11:44 PM > > > Really, there is no reason to learn and study MEL. Just do python > training. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/python_inside_maya/Ns8YMlWFwyk/unsubscribe > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA0hoRf0HHwQWiPBYGf6uVZEGvPxsVSn1VSmGhR76%2B0%2B4g%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA0hoRf0HHwQWiPBYGf6uVZEGvPxsVSn1VSmGhR76%2B0%2B4g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > <img src=" > https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=a7eb1b7682&attid=0.1.1&th=14deb2678fd6616f&view=fimg&rm=14deb2678fd6616f&sz=w1600-h1000&attbid=ANGjdJ8hZc16CyWlKxU5g-hTtnBOLjv-bkcceQ1pf0AanMmXPbstGaazevPmLlz9Bo-7eZUhrOiTLXvbdbVNWk0vvS0XYAOEzuRmXFJOo1I_f8POfiOY3c9geiZEvRM&disp=emb&zw > "> > > Justin Israel <[email protected]> > > Friday, June 12, 2015 9:26 PM > > > > On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 1:21 PM Christopher. <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I have documentation on MEL. Did you read this book ? The book comes > across as though you are calling me stupid ? ;-) A ten plus year old book > still costs almost $60, and the kindle is the same. I suppose I should > know a little C++ if I get this book. > > > I highly doubt Marcus was trying to insult your intelligence by suggesting > a book. He is one of the most helpful members of this group. > > The intent, as I saw it, was to offer you ways to improve your foundation > in programming. We are all happy to help with questions, but we can't > always teach from scratch when there are tons of resources to get a > baseline in Mel or python. But if you ask very clear detailed questions, > you will get clear and detailed answers (hopefully) > > > In the meantime, instead of me waiting to buy a book, if I buy the book, > someone willing to give me a clue on what I'm doing wrong, yes I may ask > novice questions, I do appreciate the help. > > On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-4, Marcus Ottosson wrote: > > > The american site seems to have more favourable reviews. > > - http://amzn.com/1558608354 > > > > On 12 June 2015 at 17:51, Marcus Ottosson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I’d suggest you have a glance at this book, it covers both basics and > advanced use of MEL, and is a good introduction to programming with Maya > overall. > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Maya-Programming-Extensive-Kaufmann/dp/1558608354 > > > > > > > On 12 June 2015 at 17:34, Christopher. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Do you not make objects as strings in MEL ? For example; > > string $one = "pSphere1"; > > string $two = "pCube1"; > > Or just alone var as such; $one = "pSphere1"; > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/47c38324-8ffc-4719-a06a-d0bcdbfbdf58%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/47c38324-8ffc-4719-a06a-d0bcdbfbdf58%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > > *Marcus Ottosson* > [email protected] > > > -- > > *Marcus Ottosson* > [email protected] > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/8653eb54-3b48-46a7-83c9-527c8c67385c%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/8653eb54-3b48-46a7-83c9-527c8c67385c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/python_inside_maya/Ns8YMlWFwyk/unsubscribe > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA1QvFq_Y2VAKyqXWjiOaczfZ%2Bbq55L9YWgyRmiQtzDE6Q%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA1QvFq_Y2VAKyqXWjiOaczfZ%2Bbq55L9YWgyRmiQtzDE6Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > <img src=" > https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=a7eb1b7682&attid=0.1.2&th=14deb2678fd6616f&view=fimg&rm=14deb2678fd6616f&sz=w1600-h1000&attbid=ANGjdJ82f9wWyO9SkLf_BYT9nUQAetj91kN3irCTPpclmaU7ji85Wvw37-pUpFaxD4KG9tE1lWQ17QdhD3z3M0-MFZcKgzz5RM-Gl8kf9rN-xJsnoJIBCzF9pS6Gcok&disp=emb&zw > "> > > Christopher. <[email protected]> > > Friday, June 12, 2015 9:21 PM > > > I have documentation on MEL. Did you read this book ? The book comes > across as though you are calling me stupid ? ;-) A ten plus year old book > still costs almost $60, and the kindle is the same. I suppose I should > know a little C++ if I get this book. > > > In the meantime, instead of me waiting to buy a book, if I buy the book, > someone willing to give me a clue on what I'm doing wrong, yes I may ask > novice questions, I do appreciate the help. > > On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-4, Marcus Ottosson wrote: > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/python_inside_maya/Ns8YMlWFwyk/unsubscribe > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/8653eb54-3b48-46a7-83c9-527c8c67385c%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/8653eb54-3b48-46a7-83c9-527c8c67385c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/557BAFBF.1070608%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/557BAFBF.1070608%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/python_inside_maya/Ns8YMlWFwyk/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA0LqD-ki6uobLeT6TMdfk4ppz56KDq-DGpvuwYfO4gt8A%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA0LqD-ki6uobLeT6TMdfk4ppz56KDq-DGpvuwYfO4gt8A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > Justin Israel <[email protected]> > Friday, June 12, 2015 11:44 PM > > Really, there is no reason to learn and study MEL. Just do python > training. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/python_inside_maya/Ns8YMlWFwyk/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA0hoRf0HHwQWiPBYGf6uVZEGvPxsVSn1VSmGhR76%2B0%2B4g%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA0hoRf0HHwQWiPBYGf6uVZEGvPxsVSn1VSmGhR76%2B0%2B4g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > Crest Christopher <[email protected]> > Friday, June 12, 2015 11:33 PM > It's that, I have a few MEL ebook style documents, they appear > informative, although I haven't read them cover to cover, what may the book > have that these documents don't have, besides a price tag. > > Justin Israel wrote: > Justin Israel <[email protected]> > Friday, June 12, 2015 9:26 PM > > > On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 1:21 PM Christopher. <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I have documentation on MEL. Did you read this book ? The book comes > across as though you are calling me stupid ? ;-) A ten plus year old book > still costs almost $60, and the kindle is the same. I suppose I should > know a little C++ if I get this book. > > I highly doubt Marcus was trying to insult your intelligence by suggesting > a book. He is one of the most helpful members of this group. > > The intent, as I saw it, was to offer you ways to improve your foundation > in programming. We are all happy to help with questions, but we can't > always teach from scratch when there are tons of resources to get a > baseline in Mel or python. But if you ask very clear detailed questions, > you will get clear and detailed answers (hopefully) > > > In the meantime, instead of me waiting to buy a book, if I buy the book, > someone willing to give me a clue on what I'm doing wrong, yes I may ask > novice questions, I do appreciate the help. > > On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-4, Marcus Ottosson wrote: > > The american site seems to have more favourable reviews. > > - http://amzn.com/1558608354 > > > On 12 June 2015 at 17:51, Marcus Ottosson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I’d suggest you have a glance at this book, it covers both basics and > advanced use of MEL, and is a good introduction to programming with Maya > overall. > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Maya-Programming-Extensive-Kaufmann/dp/1558608354 > > > > > > On 12 June 2015 at 17:34, Christopher. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do you not make objects as strings in MEL ? For example; > > string $one = "pSphere1"; > > string $two = "pCube1"; > > Or just alone var as such; $one = "pSphere1"; > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/47c38324-8ffc-4719-a06a-d0bcdbfbdf58%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/47c38324-8ffc-4719-a06a-d0bcdbfbdf58%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > *Marcus Ottosson* > [email protected] > > > > -- > > *Marcus Ottosson* > [email protected] > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/8653eb54-3b48-46a7-83c9-527c8c67385c%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/8653eb54-3b48-46a7-83c9-527c8c67385c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/python_inside_maya/Ns8YMlWFwyk/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA1QvFq_Y2VAKyqXWjiOaczfZ%2Bbq55L9YWgyRmiQtzDE6Q%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/CAPGFgA1QvFq_Y2VAKyqXWjiOaczfZ%2Bbq55L9YWgyRmiQtzDE6Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > Christopher. <[email protected]> > Friday, June 12, 2015 9:21 PM > I have documentation on MEL. Did you read this book ? The book comes > across as though you are calling me stupid ? ;-) A ten plus year old book > still costs almost $60, and the kindle is the same. I suppose I should > know a little C++ if I get this book. > > In the meantime, instead of me waiting to buy a book, if I buy the book, > someone willing to give me a clue on what I'm doing wrong, yes I may ask > novice questions, I do appreciate the help. > > > On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 12:53:21 PM UTC-4, Marcus Ottosson wrote: > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/python_inside_maya/Ns8YMlWFwyk/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/8653eb54-3b48-46a7-83c9-527c8c67385c%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/8653eb54-3b48-46a7-83c9-527c8c67385c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/557C1D72.5080308%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/python_inside_maya/557C1D72.5080308%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Python Programming for Autodesk Maya" group. 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