On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 1:19 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berra...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 09:25:35AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > On 28/06/2022 09.10, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 09:03:33AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > No problem with that. So that's venv. But do we need pip 
> > > > > > > > > > and pulling
> > > > > > > > > > packages from the net during testing?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We do that too. See requirements.txt in tests/
> > > > > > > > > Following two are downloaded:
> > > > > > > > > avocado-framework==88.1
> > > > > > > > > pycdlib==1.11.0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also see this line in Makefie.include:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > $(call quiet-venv-pip,install -r $(TESTS_VENV_REQ))
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Right but that's avocado since it pulls lots of stuff from
> > > > > > > > the net anyway.
> > > > > > > > Are the libraries in question not packaged on major distros?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently I only need this:
> > > > > > > https://github.com/python-tap/tappy
> > > > > > > which is the basic TAP processing library for python.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems its only installed through pip:
> > > > > > > https://tappy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do not think this is packaged by default. It's such a basic 
> > > > > > > library
> > > > > > > for parsing test output that maybe we can keep this somewhere 
> > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > the python src tree? Not sure ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's pretty small for sure. Another submodule?
> > > > >
> > > > > Unlike BITS, this one is likely going to be maintained for a while and
> > > > > will receive new releases through
> > > > > https://pypi.org/project/tap.py/
> > > > > so forking is OK but someone has to keep this updated.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am open to anything. Whatever feels right is fine to me.
> > > >
> > > > John Snow is currently working on the "Pythonification" of various QEMU
> > > > bits, I think you should loop him into this discussion, too.
> > > >
> > > >   Thomas
> > >
> > > submodule does not mean we fork necessarily. We could have
> > > all options: check for the module and use it if there, if not
> > > use one from system if not there install with pip ..
> > > But yea, I'm not sure what's best either.
> >
> > submodules create a dependency on an internet connection, too. So before you
> > add yet another submodule (which have a couple of other disadvantages), I
> > think you could also directly use the venv here.
>
> Definitely not submodules.
>
> We need to get out of the mindset that submodules are needed for every new
> dependancy we add. Submodules are only appropriate if the external project
> is designed to be used as a copylib (eg the keycodemapdb tool), or if we
> need to bundle in order to prevent a regression for previously deployed
> QEMU installs where the dependancy is known not to exist on all our
> supported platforms.
>
> This does not apply in this case, because the proposed use of tappy is
> merely for a test case. Meson just needs to check if tappy exists and if
> it does, then use it, otherwise skip the tests that need it. The user can
> arrange to install tappy, as they do with the majority of other deps.
>
> If John's venv stuff is relevant, then we don't even need the meson checks,
> just delegate to the venv setup.
>
> Regardless, no submodules are needed or desirable.

What about keeping biosbits stuff? Source or pre-built.


>
> With regards,
> Daniel
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