On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 at 10:19:26, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
> <snip> >> But it is in modern terms. This is the crux of what I started ages ago. >> Our concept of a computer lives in the past. Today that idea is not want >> is wanted by Joe public. > >I still disagree. the crux of the matter sin't whether the ppublic ^ he he that "isn't" quite the slang "ain't" - 'a' is next to 's'. ain't means the same thing. I see you two are a few fingered typist like me. >wants this or not - I'd >agree with you that they probably do want it. > >Teh question is whether you make the individual applications, such a >browsers, media >players etc an interral part of the whole system (I hesitate to call it >an OS, because it >wouldn't be) or whether you leave them as individual applications. >In both cases, you can make it happen that the average user will have >all of his >applications loaded. But there is a fundamental design diffference and >philosophy - and >not intergrate them gives you the choice of > - not using any software > - using another person's software. > I really really really hate saying anything that smacks of supporting M$, as my horrendous experience of being an unpaid, unasked beta tester of all flavours of W98 has left permanent scars, despite XP being really quite good and totally trouble free (for me)! This isn't really supporting M$ as such but the concept of a fully working package. Having integrated software does not negate your position at all. To not use them, one simply installs other software and let the installation change the default, which it probably will. With the massive ram and disk resources and high speed of modern machines (and these all get larger day by day) surely the issue is simply loading time and some wasted ram (probably small). I must say, even though I am a tinkerer, I do like the concept of a fully working integrated system to start with. At least then I have a rock on which to build. However Roy has not pointed out that both XP and W2000 allow one to remove Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, Windows Media Player and others too I am sure. If users install XP they can do that _before_ installation. Surely that then is the best of both worlds. Grrrr - I really hate this devil's advocate role. As a relevant sideline - both Roy and I use the excellent Turnpike mailer/newsreader. This add-on program actually integrates itself with Windows Explorer! -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@<surname>.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG _______________________________________________ QL-Users Mailing List