Hi Dave,
I have C reference manuals and numerous books on the subject but as
I sit in front of my QL I think, "Now, how do i use C68 to write that
Hello
world C program", by that I don't mean the source, i.e.
#include <stdio.h>
void main(void)
{
// I hope this is right !
printf ("Hello World");
}
... or whatever the correct syntax is.
I mean, what do i do/use to enter the source ( i shan't assume i could
use any text
editor although i guess I can). how do i Link / compile... what gets
generated etc
etc etc. It's that which is a mystery to me as is all the numerous
options i read about
in the c68_doc.
Amazed it wasn't PTR'izd with a rather friendly debugger thrown into
the mix ;-) ,
although I have come across a front end screen that seems to link
various parts
of C68 together, perhaps thats my starting point.
Cheers
Neil
p.s. I use Visual Studio 2005 Professional in work which deffo won't
run in 4Mb ram !
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 February 2007 15:34 >>>
You are correct in that there is no document for those who are not
already
familiar with C. It was deemed a lot of work to write such a document
and
there are plenty of books around that already cover that.
What is on the documentation disk is a guide to how C maps onto the
QDOS
environment. Also available is the detailed library reference
material.
Note that if anyone does provide any "getting started" type documents I
am
more than happy to add them to the standard set.
I recently took early retirement, so if anything interesting comes up
that
might be c68 related I should now have free time to work on it. There
have
not been any developments in c68 for quite a few years now, but that
does
not mean that there are not a number of things that have not been
identified
that might be worth working on.
Another thing that I have thought of working on is a port of gcc to the
QDOS
environment to replace c68. It would definitely not run on
unexpanded QL
systems as I would expect any system with less than about 4Mb RAM would
be
unable to run it, but would have the advantage of getting a maintained
compiler onto QDOS/SMSE as well as supporting C++ facilities in
addition to
standard C. However it is not worth putting any effort into this if
there
would not be a reasonable demand for it.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Riley
Sent: 21 February 2007 14:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] c68 guide for one who wants to know.
Thanks for the link, I've stumbled upon that page already and it
doesn't
cater
for the beginner. For example, there is source but i haven't found a '
beginners
start here' section . As Phil Kett stated in an earlier email, I'm
willing to learn but
have hit a wall.
I shall just play around with the executables I have on my hard drive
and hope
it all becomes clear.
Cheers
Neil
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21 February 2007 13:27 >>>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> under the C68 programming environment. Is there a Tutotorial on the
> subject?
There have been a coupls of 'introductions' to C68 in recent years.
None of them seemed to continue beyond the initial episode. Mind you,
I
don't remember if this was intended to be a series (similar to say my
Assembly language or Herb's Graphics) in QL Toady, or not.
> Do i need to buy back issues of QL Toady or is there an idiots guide
> already out there? Also, Is there a fast way of checking what
version
of C68 I
I don't think it is worth your while trying to buy back issues of QL
Toadt for a C68 Tutorial, but it might be very useful for other stuff
!
I don't know/Can't remember how to find out the C68 version at
present.
With all the Assembly I've been doing, my C68 skills, not that I had
many, are sadly slipping away ....
Dave Walker's web site is the best place to go for C68, he's at :
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/itimpi/index.htm
And the latest version there seems to be 4.24f.
Cheers,
Norman.
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