Thanks for the comments and apologies to Tony for any misunderstanding and for 
Malcolm I am not sure if a ZIF socket is needed for what I have in mind but 
thanks anyway.

I only need the QL to run the boot file from floppy (or SD card if that becomes 
a real possibility) from a cold power up without the user having to press 
anything.

The delay that Minerva offers and then boots anyway is fine for my needs, I 
just need to find away to realise its installation

The comments including those below suggest I can take the existing two Sinclair 
QL ROMs out and replace with a (programmed and taped) EPROM with the Minerva 
code + Toolkit II and maybe SpeedScreen if there is room (its not essential) 
already in place and following the instructions from Peter G. this would all I 
need. Now unless I have got that wrong and I am sure somebody will tell me, my 
next step is to source the hardware for erasing and burning the EPROM. 
 
Lee Privett
 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Malcolm Cadman 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Hardware question


  In message 
  <[email protected]>, Plastic 
  <[email protected]> writes

  The ZIF carrier would be a neat way of doing it.

  The BBC Micro also has a slot, to the left of the keyboard area, for 
  this purpose (it is a perforated).

  It is normally covered over, so most people would not notice it being 
  there.

  For Lee's project with the QL, a PCB taking 4 ROM's with a ZIF, would be 
  neat way of getting easy access to alternative ROM's.


  >If there's enough demand, I would be happy to make a few of these boards -
  >though they would be "prototype" PCBs and fairly expensive. Short run PCBs
  >tend to run around $40 each just for the PCB. Everything else would be
  >around $10. It might be easier to have more than one QL.
  >
  >On the upside, ZIF sockets would make things easier.
  >
  >At Sandy, we had one of the QEPIII programmers, which we used to program all
  >the EPROMS in everything we made. We also had a ZIF carrier which could hold
  >four ROM sets. It didn't just switch the CL lines - it unpowered the
  >unwanted slots, because once we put four Sinclair plastic-cased ROMs in
  >there and the current draw was too much and popped something in the power
  >section! Weird.
  >
  >Dave
  >
  >On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Peter Graf <[email protected]> wrote:
  >
  >> Hi Lee,
  >>
  >> > So I need to look out for a Gc, SGC or Minerva conversion kit,
  >> > haven't seen those on eBay or sell my retro
  >>
  >> For Minerva ROM you could try
  >>
  >> 1. Get an M27C512 and a 28 pin DIL socket (wide, long pins)
  >> 2. Program lower 48 KB with Minerva, and upper 16 KB with extension ROM
  >> binary of your choice
  >> 3. Lift up pin 1, 20, 22.
  >> 4. Press M27C512 into an IC socket
  >> 5. Wire socket pin 20 to M27C512 pin 1
  >> 6. Wire socket pin 22 to M27C512 pin 20
  >> 7. Wire M27C512 pin 28 to M27C512 pin 22
  >> 8. Remove both QL ROMs from socket
  >> 9. Press in the M27C512 with it's socket into one of the QL sockets
  >>
  >> All the best
  >> Peter
  >>
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