On 3 Apr 2012, at 15:04, Dilwyn Jones wrote: >>> To know the exact present copyright position we would have to have >>> access to the legal agreement between Jan Jones and McGraw-Hill; the >>> legal agreement between Jan Jones and Quanta; and any possible legal >>> agreements between Quanta and McGraw-Hill. >> >> I doubt this will help much, but inside my copy, a Quanta limited edition >> one according to the cover, I see the following at the bottom of the >> "Preface to the 2nd Edition" page: >> >> Copyright Notice >> As of December 1987 all rights in this book reverted to Jan Jones. No >> portion of this book may be reproduced without her written permission. >> >> >> On the page before that I also see this: >> >> This QUANTA LIMITED EDITION prited in July 1989. >> >> Copyright 1989 Quanta. All rights reserved. No part of this publication may >> be reproduced ...... without prior written permission of QUANTA, or of the >> original copyright holder. >> >> >> Now, given my limited legal qualifications - I'm not a lawyer and I don't >> play one on TV either - but it sounds to me that we can get permission from >> Quanta or Jan Jones? > Quanta have discussed this before and are aware of the 'reverted to Jan > Jones' issue. > > Previous reprints were organised (I think) by Phil Borman and possibly John > Taylor. > > There is an email to this list by John Taylor on 7/3/11: >> The QL must be very much alive. >> The used Jan Jones book sold for £23 on eBay. >> Quanta sold them, new, for £8 >> JJ got £5 and Quanta paid for the reprint out of their £3. > > Which at least shows John Taylor has at least some knowledge of the matter. > > As Sarah is away, I'll ask Alison to delve into past Quanta minutes to see > what if any information we can find on the subject, as I don't know whether > the original Quanta permission was for one reprint or ongoing. > > Dilwyn Jones > _______________________________________________ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
The reprint agreement with Jan Jones was organised by Syd Humphries and it would have been he who included the Quanta copyright notice. A lot of secrecy surrounded the agreement as JJ had expressed a wish that the only communication with her would be the annual payments and that on no condition were we to disclose her address or telephone number to the members. As the agreement contained those details it was never made public. The pricing arrangement of £8 was unavoidable. The agreement was to pay JJ £5 for each copy sold and recover the cost of printing. As a non profit making organisation we could not sell the book at a profit, neither could we sell it non members. In those days the turnover of Quanta was such that we would have been liable for VAT if we were a profit making organisation selling to the general public. It was all 21 years ago so my memory is incomplete re the exact agreement and what happened to it. It may have been in a pile of papers that I passed on to John Gilpin. BTW. Syd was the only Quanta member who at different times held all three executive positions of Treasurer, Secretary and Chairman. Unfortunately Syd is one of the many Quanta friends I have lost over the years. John Taylor. _______________________________________________ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
