It's probably the sparkle that's blocking their view of the markings ;)

--- On Mon, 11/3/13, Dave Park <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Dave Park <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Data collection on (S)GCs
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, 11 March, 2013, 0:49

People are welcome to send photos too, but please remember to send them to
[email protected] and not to the list. :)

BUT... how could it be?! QLers are a youthful and spritely bunch with a
sparkle in their eye that belies their years!

Dave


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM, John Alexander
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I suspect that many folk who have such devices are maybe long enough in
> the tooth not to really see those markings especially after xx years.
>
> A really nice simple way of getting accurate results is merely to
> photograph the board with your compact camera assuming you have a decent
> Macro. This is a great way of getting all sorts of board information
> depending on circumstance..
>
> Yeah I know it's obvious but I'm sure that it's sooo obvious that many an
> owner will be cursing over that faded writing :)
>
> Good luck John A
>
> --- On Sun, 10/3/13, Francois Lanciault <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> From: Francois Lanciault <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Data collection on (S)GCs
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sunday, 10 March, 2013, 18:36
>
> Difficult to read as some of the characters have worn off...
>
> Looks like:
>
> EP1810LC-20T
> A9119
>
> Yellow gold card with just the name Gold Card. Not working.
>
> Will look at my super goldcard eventually.
>
> F.
>
> On 2013-03-10, at 13:53, Dave Park wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I was wondering if you could take a minute out of your day to help us?
> > We're trying to solve a problem by better understanding it. This requires
> > that we collect information about what works, to see how big a pool of
> > components is.
> >
> > If you have a Gold Card or Super Gold Card, we'd like some information
> > about it. In particular, we'd like to know the date and model of the
> Altera
> > chip your card has.
> >
> > What we already know is that some time in the late 90s, Altera made a
> > revision to the chip which made it unsuitable for using in SGCs. We're
> > trying to work out the complete date range of that chip as used on SGCs
> so
> > we can see how broad the date range is that we can buy from.
> >
> > Also, we know the Gold Card used some slower versions of the IC, but many
> > also used the faster version, which is suitable for re-use in a Super
> Gold
> > Card.
> >
> > If you could please just remove your GC/SGC from your system and look at
> > the Altera chip, you will see markings (which may be under a sticker
> saying
> > "INGOT #") like this:
> >
> > ALTERA
> > EP1810LC-25T
> > C9301
> >
> > Could you please write these markings down?
> >
> > Next, if it's a Gold Card, please turn it over and note if it says Gold
> > Card, Gold Card Issue 2, or Gold Card 3? Also, could you follow this
> link: CPU
> > Toolkit <http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/tk/cputk.zip> and see if your card can
> run
> > at 24 MHz?
> >
> > If it's a Super Gold Card you do not need to do this.
> >
> > If you have the original SAFT 40LF220 red battery on your card, can you
> > please check the date code, which will be in the format YY MM.
> >
> > Finally, there's an EPROM on your card. Could you please write down what
> it
> > says on the label? If you know that this has been changed since the card
> > was made, please could you add a note of that?
> >
> > Next, could you email that information to [email protected] please?
> >
> > Now would be a good time to blow away the dust and check all socketed
> chips
> > are seated properly before re-assembling and testing your system :)
> >
> > We will collate the date ranges for each model, and get a much clearer
> > picture of which versions/dates were used in which cards.
> >
> > We will publish the results.
> >
> > Thank you for doing this for us. We really appreciate it.
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