gold card 2    ep1810lc-20t B9137 and a paper sticker with ingot 6 written on 
it.

Arnold




________________________________
 From: Dave Park <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2013, 19:47
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Data collection on (S)GCs
 
Hi everyone,

Thanks for the great response. Here are the results :)

CHIP DATE ROM

Gold Card 1
EP1810LC-20T C9119
EP1810LC-20T A9119
EP1810LC-20T A9119
EP1810LC-20T A9119

Gold Card 2
EP1810LC-35T C9213 -


Gold Card 3
EP1810LC-25T C9301 2.49


Super Gold Card
EP1810LC-25T C9349 2.49 -
EP1810LC-25T C9401   2.49 -
EP1810LC-25T C9401   2.49 -
EP1810LC-25T C9401   2.49 -
EP1810LC-25T C9401   2.49 -
EP1810LC-25T C9501 2.49 -
EP1810LC-25T C9501   2.49 -

Altera EP1810LC-25T or 20T will work in any type of Gold Card.
Additionally, 35T (slower) parts were used in some Gold Cards.

The cut-off date is C9707. These chips are theoretically reprogrammable,
but do not have an erase window. The EP1810-JI and JC versions are
internally identical but DO have a UV erase window packaging.

Thank you to everyone who contributed. :)

Dave


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:40 PM, John Alexander
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> It's probably the sparkle that's blocking their view of the markings ;)
>
> --- On Mon, 11/3/13, Dave Park <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Dave Park <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Data collection on (S)GCs
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, 11 March, 2013, 0:49
>
> People are welcome to send photos too, but please remember to send them to
> [email protected] and not to the list. :)
>
> BUT... how could it be?! QLers are a youthful and spritely bunch with a
> sparkle in their eye that belies their years!
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM, John Alexander
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > I suspect that many folk who have such devices are maybe long enough in
> > the tooth not to really see those markings especially after xx years.
> >
> > A really nice simple way of getting accurate results is merely to
> > photograph the board with your compact camera assuming you have a decent
> > Macro. This is a great way of getting all sorts of board information
> > depending on circumstance..
> >
> > Yeah I know it's obvious but I'm sure that it's sooo obvious that many an
> > owner will be cursing over that faded writing :)
> >
> > Good luck John A
> >
> > --- On Sun, 10/3/13, Francois Lanciault <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Francois Lanciault <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Data collection on (S)GCs
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Sunday, 10 March, 2013, 18:36
> >
> > Difficult to read as some of the characters have worn off...
> >
> > Looks like:
> >
> > EP1810LC-20T
> > A9119
> >
> > Yellow gold card with just the name Gold Card. Not working.
> >
> > Will look at my super goldcard eventually.
> >
> > F.
> >
> > On 2013-03-10, at 13:53, Dave Park wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if you could take a minute out of your day to help us?
> > > We're trying to solve a problem by better understanding it. This
> requires
> > > that we collect information about what works, to see how big a pool of
> > > components is.
> > >
> > > If you have a Gold Card or Super Gold Card, we'd like some information
> > > about it. In particular, we'd like to know the date and model of the
> > Altera
> > > chip your card has.
> > >
> > > What we already know is that some time in the late 90s, Altera made a
> > > revision to the chip which made it unsuitable for using in SGCs. We're
> > > trying to work out the complete date range of that chip as used on SGCs
> > so
> > > we can see how broad the date range is that we can buy from.
> > >
> > > Also, we know the Gold Card used some slower versions of the IC, but
> many
> > > also used the faster version, which is suitable for re-use in a Super
> > Gold
> > > Card.
> > >
> > > If you could please just remove your GC/SGC from your system and look
> at
> > > the Altera chip, you will see markings (which may be under a sticker
> > saying
> > > "INGOT #") like this:
> > >
> > > ALTERA
> > > EP1810LC-25T
> > > C9301
> > >
> > > Could you please write these markings down?
> > >
> > > Next, if it's a Gold Card, please turn it over and note if it says Gold
> > > Card, Gold Card Issue 2, or Gold Card 3? Also, could you follow this
> > link: CPU
> > > Toolkit <http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/tk/cputk.zip> and see if your card
> can
> > run
> > > at 24 MHz?
> > >
> > > If it's a Super Gold Card you do not need to do this.
> > >
> > > If you have the original SAFT 40LF220 red battery on your card, can you
> > > please check the date code, which will be in the format YY MM.
> > >
> > > Finally, there's an EPROM on your card. Could you please write down
> what
> > it
> > > says on the label? If you know that this has been changed since the
> card
> > > was made, please could you add a note of that?
> > >
> > > Next, could you email that information to [email protected] please?
> > >
> > > Now would be a good time to blow away the dust and check all socketed
> > chips
> > > are seated properly before re-assembling and testing your system :)
> > >
> > > We will collate the date ranges for each model, and get a much clearer
> > > picture of which versions/dates were used in which cards.
> > >
> > > We will publish the results.
> > >
> > > Thank you for doing this for us. We really appreciate it.
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