Hi Arnold, Thank you. I have added you to the chart.
Yours is the only GC reported that uses a B#### Altera chip. How does it work? Is it reliable? Dave On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > gold card 2 ep1810lc-20t B9137 and a paper sticker with ingot 6 written > on it. > > Arnold > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave Park <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2013, 19:47 > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Data collection on (S)GCs > > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for the great response. Here are the results :) > > CHIP DATE ROM > > Gold Card 1 > EP1810LC-20T C9119 > EP1810LC-20T A9119 > EP1810LC-20T A9119 > EP1810LC-20T A9119 > > Gold Card 2 > EP1810LC-35T C9213 - > > > Gold Card 3 > EP1810LC-25T C9301 2.49 > > > Super Gold Card > EP1810LC-25T C9349 2.49 - > EP1810LC-25T C9401 2.49 - > EP1810LC-25T C9401 2.49 - > EP1810LC-25T C9401 2.49 - > EP1810LC-25T C9401 2.49 - > EP1810LC-25T C9501 2.49 - > EP1810LC-25T C9501 2.49 - > > Altera EP1810LC-25T or 20T will work in any type of Gold Card. > Additionally, 35T (slower) parts were used in some Gold Cards. > > The cut-off date is C9707. These chips are theoretically reprogrammable, > but do not have an erase window. The EP1810-JI and JC versions are > internally identical but DO have a UV erase window packaging. > > Thank you to everyone who contributed. :) > > Dave > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:40 PM, John Alexander > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > It's probably the sparkle that's blocking their view of the markings ;) > > > > --- On Mon, 11/3/13, Dave Park <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > From: Dave Park <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Data collection on (S)GCs > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Monday, 11 March, 2013, 0:49 > > > > People are welcome to send photos too, but please remember to send them > to > > [email protected] and not to the list. :) > > > > BUT... how could it be?! QLers are a youthful and spritely bunch with a > > sparkle in their eye that belies their years! > > > > Dave > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM, John Alexander > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I suspect that many folk who have such devices are maybe long enough in > > > the tooth not to really see those markings especially after xx years. > > > > > > A really nice simple way of getting accurate results is merely to > > > photograph the board with your compact camera assuming you have a > decent > > > Macro. This is a great way of getting all sorts of board information > > > depending on circumstance.. > > > > > > Yeah I know it's obvious but I'm sure that it's sooo obvious that many > an > > > owner will be cursing over that faded writing :) > > > > > > Good luck John A > > > > > > --- On Sun, 10/3/13, Francois Lanciault <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Francois Lanciault <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] [QL-Users] Data collection on (S)GCs > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Sunday, 10 March, 2013, 18:36 > > > > > > Difficult to read as some of the characters have worn off... > > > > > > Looks like: > > > > > > EP1810LC-20T > > > A9119 > > > > > > Yellow gold card with just the name Gold Card. Not working. > > > > > > Will look at my super goldcard eventually. > > > > > > F. > > > > > > On 2013-03-10, at 13:53, Dave Park wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I was wondering if you could take a minute out of your day to help > us? > > > > We're trying to solve a problem by better understanding it. This > > requires > > > > that we collect information about what works, to see how big a pool > of > > > > components is. > > > > > > > > If you have a Gold Card or Super Gold Card, we'd like some > information > > > > about it. In particular, we'd like to know the date and model of the > > > Altera > > > > chip your card has. > > > > > > > > What we already know is that some time in the late 90s, Altera made a > > > > revision to the chip which made it unsuitable for using in SGCs. > We're > > > > trying to work out the complete date range of that chip as used on > SGCs > > > so > > > > we can see how broad the date range is that we can buy from. > > > > > > > > Also, we know the Gold Card used some slower versions of the IC, but > > many > > > > also used the faster version, which is suitable for re-use in a Super > > > Gold > > > > Card. > > > > > > > > If you could please just remove your GC/SGC from your system and look > > at > > > > the Altera chip, you will see markings (which may be under a sticker > > > saying > > > > "INGOT #") like this: > > > > > > > > ALTERA > > > > EP1810LC-25T > > > > C9301 > > > > > > > > Could you please write these markings down? > > > > > > > > Next, if it's a Gold Card, please turn it over and note if it says > Gold > > > > Card, Gold Card Issue 2, or Gold Card 3? Also, could you follow this > > > link: CPU > > > > Toolkit <http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/tk/cputk.zip> and see if your card > > can > > > run > > > > at 24 MHz? > > > > > > > > If it's a Super Gold Card you do not need to do this. > > > > > > > > If you have the original SAFT 40LF220 red battery on your card, can > you > > > > please check the date code, which will be in the format YY MM. > > > > > > > > Finally, there's an EPROM on your card. Could you please write down > > what > > > it > > > > says on the label? If you know that this has been changed since the > > card > > > > was made, please could you add a note of that? > > > > > > > > Next, could you email that information to [email protected]? > > > > > > > > Now would be a good time to blow away the dust and check all socketed > > > chips > > > > are seated properly before re-assembling and testing your system :) > > > > > > > > We will collate the date ranges for each model, and get a much > clearer > > > > picture of which versions/dates were used in which cards. > > > > > > > > We will publish the results. > > > > > > > > Thank you for doing this for us. We really appreciate it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > QL-Users Mailing List > > > > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QL-Users Mailing List > > > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QL-Users Mailing List > > > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QL-Users Mailing List > > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > _______________________________________________ > > QL-Users Mailing List > > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > > > > -- > Dave Park > Sandy Electronics, LLC > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > _______________________________________________ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > -- Dave Park Sandy Electronics, LLC [email protected] _______________________________________________ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
