Hi Urs,

I have tried to reproduce your failures on QPC2 and SMSQmulator8, I can report that on my Fujitsu H700 Core i7 620 laptop with 4Gb ram running Ubuntu 15.10, I can not reproduce the freezing.

The common thing in your You Tube Videos is you are using a Windows operating System.

If I can not get QPC2 and SMSQmulator to freeze then the fault lies on the host operating system.

Can you try your tests using a Linux system running QPC2 under Wine. I would think this will not fail.

Regards,

Derek

On 21/03/16 19:29, ql wrote:
Hi QLers,

I’m between work and home and did find some time to make some short videos 
about the freeze case. Here they are:

QL/E (v3.11, SMSQ/E v3.22, QPAC2 v4.02) freezes!

http://youtu.be/wcngRwkvc5w

QL/E (v3.11, SMSQ/E v3.22, SMSQmulator v2.12) freezes!

http://youtu.be/HZ9jj162UN4

QL/E (v3.11, SMSQ/E v3.22, QPAC2 v4.02) workaround prevents freeze!

http://youtu.be/D07vYHsvA80

QL/E (v3.11, SMSQ/E v3.22, QPAC2 v4.02) no freeze when QDT is disabled!

http://youtu.be/b-rc6PZASyc

I’m posting this message with my iPhone and will reply to all your replies when 
I will be using my home PC, but this can be later on this week.

QL forever!

Urs


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 21.03.2016 um 00:59 schrieb Marcel Kilgus <[email protected]>:

Urs Koenig (QL) wrote:
Because we have a Windows Freeze case at work which is very hard to trace
and analyse (visitors of the ZX-TEAM meeting will know) I wanted to at least
catch the QL/E Freeze case.
Last Thursday I was repeatedly able to reproduce the freeze using my QL/E
v3.13 wip (work-in-progress). I then reduced the steps needed to get the
freeze. In the end I can say you can get the freeze when doing this
scenario:
1. Start QL/E (e.g. start QPC2.exe).
2. From now on do not use the mouse, do not use the mouse pointer.
3. After the BOOT sequence of QL/E is completed (SBASIC job 0 is minimised
as "System" in the button frame, wait until Photo QL has completed
displaying the QL collection photo) press <ALT>+<\> to pick "System".
4. Now that you see the BOOT process windows in the middle of the screen
press <ALT>+<F> to pick QPAC2 "Files".
5. Once QPAC2 "Files" is on screen press <F2> then <W> followed by <ENTER>
to choose the drive "WIN1_" as the Source Directory.
6. Now the QL/E system freezes!

Okay, I can reproduce it. But the crash happens in the screen driver.
The problem is that SMSQ/E does not have any kind of memory protection
and you're loading a quadrillion extensions at boot-time. Any one of
them could be responsible of corrupting the memory in a way that QPAC2
will crash later on without being at fault itself.

Trying to track down these kind of problems is a huge pain, not sure
if I can find the time to do so.

Cheers, Marcel

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