Thanks Derek

I am pleased you found it useful, and pleased you bought it from Tom (last
name Dolezal).

I remember TK Computerware as a consistent supporter and retailer of QL and
Z88 products at the time. Tom worked in Ashford, Kent but I think he moved
in the 90s. When credit card fraud began to take hold. He 'sold' a Z88 to a
fraudster who later phoned him and boasted about the fraud. Wolfgang
suggested 'some people are just evil'. Well that kind of deliberate torture
comes close. On a positive note I did get some fraudsters arrested one time,
they were under 18 apparently. Their leader had the sense to leg it but must
have had a few sleepless nights. Still, that's another story.

Best wishes
Richard Howe

-----Original Message-----
From: Ql-Users [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Derek
Stewart
Sent: 09 July 2016 08:41
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personal Software Preservation
Project

Hi Richard,

I bought a copy of Master Spy in 1989 from TK Computaware, aftwer a review
in QL Wolrd.

I must say that Master Spy was one of best QL software I have ever had. 
I am sorry for not buying it direct from you.

Regards,

Derek

On 07/07/16 16:16, Richard Howe wrote:
> Hi
>
> I don't often reply in the forum but I do watch it, and this thread 
> caught my attention.
>
> Issues:
>       1.  Integrity.
>       2.  Letting go of personal attacks by trolls, and the trolls 
> themselves.
>       3.  Copyright.
>
> 1.  Integrity.
> Those who appreciate the value of copyright do so because it is 
> 'right' to morally and financially support those who give energy to 
> projects that interest the community. Those who break copyright law 
> are ignorant of this, their minds commonly lacking respect for others. 
> Those who simply observe the law have missed the point.
>
> 2. Letting go.
> When encountering people of low integrity it is important first to 
> recognise them for the ignorant people they are, and quickly say 
> 'bye'. It's easy to forgive them because they are obviously too 
> ignorant to dig themselves out of the pit they have dug for 
> themselves. Allowing trolls space in your mind will lead to your poor 
> health as you are allowing your own ego to mull over their negative 
> words. Simply know the community is constructive, and will dismiss them
and their comments. Only trolls really engage with trolls.
> Letting go is an important healing principle.
>
> 3. Copyright.
> I would not be fussed if copies of my old QL programs were passed around.
> However, I am writing a website that uses a few original ideas in 
> them, and I 'would' be fussed if the ideas were misused and undermined 
> my current project. The law allows for 'fair use' of parts of a 
> copyright item and this is wise. Special licences can also widen the 
> availability for users while protecting essentials for the author. 
> Perhaps I should mention that thirty years ago I wrote the Spy and Master
Spy editors, Archivist, Mailfile, etc.
> Back then there were enthusiasts but few buyers, much like today. I 
> haven't sold anything QL in the last twenty years. I seem to remember 
> all the profits were ploughed back into advertising. That's the nature 
> of the game sometimes.
>
> Kind regards
> Richard Howe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ql-Users [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Rich Mellor
> Sent: 07 July 2016 14:32
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personal Software 
> Preservation Project
>
> On 07/07/2016 11:13, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just my 2 cents worth.
>>
>> As I understand it, Rich came under attack from some (as yet unnamed) 
>> sources because he (i) sells old programs for the QL and (ii) sent 
>> take-down notices (or was suspected of sending them) to sites that 
>> apparently hosted copyrighted files without the owners' consent.
>>
>> It goes without saying that being attacked for these actions is just 
>> unacceptable. I'm alarmed, Rich, that this should cause you health 
>> problems. I believe that the echo your decision got on the list here 
>> shows that people here do support you.
>>
>> Except for the health problem, I'm not sure that I understand why 
>> this causes you to stop your preservation project. Surely the best 
>> strategy to adopt is to ignore the <your favorite swear word here> 
>> who bring these attacks - and go on as before ?
>>
>> I think, Rich, that you should publish here extracts of the offending 
>> emails or whatever form that correspondence took, together with the 
>> author's names, so that I, for one, could be sure not to have any 
>> contact with them.
>>
>>
>> The discussion now seems to center on whether all QL software should 
>> be made available for free. I agree with much of what Marcel writes, 
>> in that I also think that all of this 30+ years old software
>> **should** be free. Like Marcel, I'm in the process of releasing my 
>> commercial programs as freeware, as and when I get around to it.
>> However, the decision to do so is mine and nobody else's. Likewise, 
>> the decision for others to do so with their software is theirs. Do I 
>> think that that old software should be released for free, like Marcel 
>> does ? Sure ! Would I, like Marcel, refuse to pay a cent for any old 
>> game ? Yup : if it isn't free, I don't even look at it.
>>
>> But I don't see what's wrong with copyright owners holding on to 
>> their property, nor with Rich trying to sell some software and make 
>> some money from it. I do not understand the mindset of people who 
>> believe that these things MUST NECESSARILY be free and if they 
>> aren't, then the copyright owners and traders are evil, and fair game 
>> for any sort of abuse (I'm not accusing anybody on this list of thinking
that way!).
>>
>> Is the fact that some copyright owners try to make a buck off their 
>> software in any way nefarious or detrimental to the QL scene ? In 
>> other words, do we loose users because of it ? I don't believe so. I 
>> frankly fail to believe that someone new to the QL scene would look 
>> at it, look at the software available, think < hey that's a game I 
>> must have > and then go away when he discovers that the game is still 
>> being
> sold..
>>
>> As to the problem of hosting these still copyrighted files, I like 
>> Marcel's analogy with (minor!) traffic law violations - you can 
>> choose, say, to double-park < just for a few minutes > and run the 
>> risk of getting a fine. Likewise, you can also choose to host 
>> copyrighted files and run the risk of criminal proceedings (with much
> higher penalties).
>> The risk of being sued is probably minimal. The operating words being 
>> < probable > -i.e. not certain, and < minimal > i.e. not null. It is 
>> up to each of us to assess that risk and ask themselves whether they 
>> want to run it. However, as one of those darned lawyers myself, what 
>> would I tell a client if he asked me whether he should/could host 
>> copyrighted files (w/o the copyright owners' permission, that is) ?
>> The answer would be a clear and unequivocal < no >.
>>
>> QL forever!
>>
>> Wolfgang
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>>
> Maybe with our legal backgrounds, we both see the need to protect 
> rights and for that reason neither of us would get involved in hosting 
> copyrighted files.
>
> I think the need to obtain the copyright holders' permission is 
> paramount - if you do not bother to approach them and are later found 
> out as having breached their copyright, then it is a much more fraught 
> position than if you contacted them first and ascertained what they would
like to happen.
>
> Let's face it, if someone approached a best selling author and said - 
> could we host downloads of your books from the 1980s which have been 
> out of print for 20 years, they may well say yes - I would love to see it.
> But if you offer the books for download and then someone pointed them 
> to your site, they are much much less likely to think that is acceptable.
>
> As for the impact on my health - the problem is that (as some people 
> are
> aware) I have been struggling with poor health now for 2 1/2 years - 
> the stress of dealing with these personal attacks on both myself and 
> my business just compounds that as it adds to my (already) poor sleep.
>
> I would rather not publicise the attacks further by including extracts 
> - but there are several (generally Spanish) forums and even a well 
> known Spectrum forum where these attacks have been levied (generally 
> started by the same username, but then carried on by others).
>
> --
> Rich Mellor
> RWAP Services
> Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services
>
> www.rwapservices.co.uk
>
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