On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 08:35:27AM -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  You can use ucspi-ssl package instead of patched uscpi-tcp for
> > POP3/SMTP(and any other TCP services) over SSL.
> > 
> >     http://www.superscript.com/ucspi-ssl/intro.html
> > 
> > We have used this for last two weeks and that works fine :-). 
> 
> I was looking at that too.  The SSL patch for tcpserver was on the
> qmail-ldap home page and that's why I used it, but I've been getting
> some very annoying errors:
> 
> 2004-05-12 08:12:54.215310500 qmail-smtpd 3346: message queued: 1084363974 qp 3348
> 2004-05-12 08:12:54.215322500 qmail-smtpd 3346: write error, connection closed
> 
> which just means the SSL connection was closed.  The behavior of
> Mozilla in this instance is to show a progress dialog that doesn't
> close automatically (you have to "Cancel") and when you cancel, the
> write error occurs and the message goes out.  I tried debugging with
> "openssl s_client" but didn't see anything unusual.  Very bizarre,
> let's see if ucspi-ssl fixes this problem.
> 
> If anyone has seen this problem, I would really appreciate a pointer.
> 

I would be intrested too.

> >  We need both SMTP over SSL and STARTTLS because MS Outlook
> >  (Express) supports only SMTP over SSL but Mozilla Mailer(such as
> >  Thunderbird) does only STARTLS... So we use qmail-smtpd with
> >  STARTTLS and ucspi-ssl.
> 
> Mozilla 1.6 and above can do SMTP over SSL in addition to TLS.  I
> don't use Thunderbird but if the main Mozilla trunk has the feature,
> it's reasonable to expect it in Thunderbird eventually.
> 

AFAIK SMTP over SSL should no longer be used because it is no longer a
"valid standard". At least the IETF thinks that all should use STARTTLS
instead of smtp over ssl. Btw. for MTA only STARTTLS will be used.

> > BTW if you know some MUA except Mozilla Mailer which can use
> > STARTTLS for SMTP, please let me.
> 
> Gnus can do it, and it's a very excellent MUA in all other aspects as
> well.
> 

You should change the question. Which MUA does support SMTP over SSL only.
Because most MUA that have a ssl knob do STARTTLS.
Mail.app, Eudora, Mozilla are the ones I know that can do STARTTLS.

-- 
:wq Claudio

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