From: Edward S. Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Adam D. McKenna wrote:
:> I've posted messages to linux-smp that have taken over 12 hours to get
:> posted (or at least to be returned to me..)
:>
:> The qmail mailing list, on the other hand, usually has a 1-2 second
:> turnaround.
:
:Surely you jest? Do you have -any- idea how many deliveries, plus cvs
:sessions, vger.rutgers.edu deals with daily? Sorry, but the system
:handling the QMail mailing list doesn't even come close to that level of
:throughput load.

Exactly which comment of mine did you have a problem with?

recently list.cr.yp.to has sustained 1.5 million deliveries per day over a
seven day period, without lagging.

Even if vger.rutgers.edu is doing ten times that, (which I seriously doubt),
it shouldn't take a matter of hours to get a message posted.  This type of
thing really affects the flow of conversation.

:Ask David; he and and the ZMailer developer (who also tunes vger's mail
:system) posted some stats today on the linux-kernel list regarding what
:that machine has to put up with.

I don't read the linux-kernel list, and the stats have not been posted here.
If you intend to argue a point based on these stats, then post them here.

:And now that anonymous CVS has been closed, deliveries are back to the 1-2
:hour range. Not bad, considering the number of subscribers, the level
:of traffic, and the spread of exploders.

I really don't see how the fact that they're running CVS off the same machine
is relevant.  If the machine is choking that badly, they should get some new
hardware.  Companies are practically begging to support linux development
these days.

Say whatever you want about qmail and zmailer, but please don't pretend that
vger's current situation is "good enough".  It needs to be fixed.  If it can't
be fixed, then someone with sufficient resources should take over.

--Adam

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