Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> David Dyer-Bennet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > And either ORBS is blowing *amazing* clouds of smoke or MAPS is really
> > putting the boot in in their private way, in ways I can't approve of.
>
> ORBS is blowing *amazing* clouds of smoke. Either that, or Alan Brown has
> literally no clue whatsoever how Internet routing works. This is one of
> the things that's rather annoying those of us who have heard a lot of the
> story from various sides.
Hi Russ!
I can't comment on this latest battle of wills between MAPS and
ORBS, because I know nothing of BGP routing. But in the last one,
when ORBS listed in the RBL, ORBS was totally in the right. I saw
grown men, (admins!) trying to defend the position that by ORBS
sending up to 16 messages through their servers a few times a _year_,
ORBS was abusing the email system. Mind you, these were servers
that relayed 200K to a million messages a day - the ORBS tests
amounted to a tiny fraction a of fraction of the spam it would
have prevented.
And, as a result of above.net blocking ORBS, I find myself having
to play whack-a-mole with spammers within above.net more and more
each week - just reported one yesterday.
I suppose neither side is right, they're both being very childish
about all this.
(My apologies to the list for keeping this OT thread going - I'll
shut up now)
Eric