On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 08:22:41AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
> David Dyer-Bennet writes:
>  > Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 22 July 2000 at 09:15:45 -0400
>  > 
>  >  > Alan is the south end of a horse going north.  Given the way he runs
>  >  > orbs.org and the accusations he makes of people, I'm amazed that
>  >  > anyone uses ORBS.
>  > 
>  > Ugly all around.
> 
> Yup.  I'm just going by history here.  MAPS has never abused their
> position, whereas ORBS is known to block non-spammers simply because
> they refuse to allow ORBS to scan them.

Argh. Get that misconception *out your head*.

People who disallow ORBS to scan them get listed as *untestable*, not as
*open relays*. ORBS doesn't block. It provides listing which admins can use
to block, or tag, or defer, or *whatever*. It leaves the choice of blocking
only open relays or also untestable hosts to the *admin*.

That djb's rblsmtpd implemented this incorrectly is not Alan's (Brown, the
ORBS dude) fault.

Hint: use outputs.orbs.org instead of relays.orbs.org if your RBL-checker
is buggy. That way it will only block open relays and allow untested hosts
through.

Greetz, Peter.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Peter van Dijk [student:developer:ircoper]

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