In the immortal words of Eric Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> I can't comment on this latest battle of wills between MAPS and
> ORBS, because I know nothing of BGP routing. But in the last one,
> when ORBS listed in the RBL, ORBS was totally in the right. I saw
> grown men, (admins!) trying to defend the position that by ORBS
> sending up to 16 messages through their servers a few times a _year_,
> ORBS was abusing the email system. Mind you, these were servers
> that relayed 200K to a million messages a day - the ORBS tests
> amounted to a tiny fraction a of fraction of the spam it would
> have prevented.
Were those messages:
- sent in bulk? Yes.
- unsolicited by the owner of the server? Almost always.
- impossible to opt out of except by blocking the sender's
networks? Completely.
This is an area where reasonable people may disagree. If you believe
spam is defined by content, then no, the ORBS probes are not spam.
If, however, you believe that spam is defined by all or some subset of
the above criteria, then they are. If you own your own network, you
craft your filters accordingly.
And please, please, please let's stop calling this a MAPS-vs-ORBS
issue. This is ORBS vs. AboveNet, and Alan is trying desperatly to
bring MAPS into it for reasons which should be transparently obvious.
MAPS is not AboveNet, any more than DJB is the University of Illinois.
-n
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