A short while before the self-righteous thread on How To Annoy People
Whose Help You Need, I posted a request for help with a problem I was
experiencing. Not a single one of the supposedly helpful people of
this list have bothered to reply. Having read the thread, it occurs to
me that perhaps the original message wasn't annoying enough to merit a
reply, so this is my next attempt. I am hoping that the combination of
a useless Subject line, the reposting of the complete message, and the
provocative tone will be sufficient incentive for someone to get off
their arse and reply, even if it's to tell me that you can't help with
the info I provided, or that you don't know the solution to the
problem.

Anyone got a clue? (and I'm not just referring to the specific
problem)

Cheers,

Bruno Prior
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: qmail refuses delivery from fetchmail despite forcecr option
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 13:09:07 +0100
From: Bruno Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am new at using qmail, so please forgive me if this is something
really obvious.

I am fetching my mail from my ISP using fetchmail and passing it to
the SMTP port (with qmail as mail server). I believe my ISP is using
qpopper, if that makes any difference. This mostly works fine, but
occasionally I get the following response, which I can't get past (I
get round it by using Netscape to download that message):

fetchmail: SMTP< 451 See http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.
fetchmail: SMTP listener refused delivery

I have read the suggested web-page, but I already had forcecr on in my
fetchmailrc (having RTFM) and I can't see any other relevant
suggestion of how to fix this. What other FM have I missed?

Incidentally, after a few failed download attempts because of this
problem, my mail spool at the ISP got corrupted. Could this be
connected?

Also incidentally, all the messages that cause this problem come from
this mailing list, which seems ironic.

fetchmail version: 4.4.4 release 2 (this is pretty recent, so
according to the web-page, it ought to be alright)
qmail version: 1.03 release 9

fetchmailrc:

poll mailgate.ftech.net with protocol POP3
        user my_user_name there with password my_password is * here
        options fetchall forcecr

I have tried playing around with the last line of the fetchmailrc,
taking out "options" and/or "fetchall", in case they confused things,
but it makes no difference.

I would appreciate any help.

Cheers,

Bruno Prior
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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