also sprach bgprior:
[diatribe snipped]
> Anyone got a clue? (and I'm not just referring to the specific
> problem)

Bruno,

Sorry about the lack of response. On a related issue, it seems your yearly
support contract to the mailing list has run out. Please send US$5,000 and
we'll get right on it. (Hint: no one owes you anything. Relax.)

> -------- Original Message --------
[...]
> I am fetching my mail from my ISP using fetchmail and passing it to
> the SMTP port (with qmail as mail server). I believe my ISP is using
> qpopper, if that makes any difference. This mostly works fine, but
> occasionally I get the following response, which I can't get past (I
> get round it by using Netscape to download that message):
> 
> fetchmail: SMTP< 451 See http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.
> fetchmail: SMTP listener refused delivery
> 
> I have read the suggested web-page, but I already had forcecr on in my
> fetchmailrc (having RTFM) and I can't see any other relevant
> suggestion of how to fix this. What other FM have I missed?

I don't know of any other FM.

> Incidentally, after a few failed download attempts because of this
> problem, my mail spool at the ISP got corrupted. Could this be
> connected?

Who knows? It certainly doesn't sound like a qmail problem.

> fetchmail version: 4.4.4 release 2 (this is pretty recent, so
> according to the web-page, it ought to be alright)

I'll assume you mean *5*.4.4.

> qmail version: 1.03 release 9

I'll assume you mean Bruce Guenter's RPMs of qmail+patches, since there's no
``release 9'' of qmail. It's just qmail-1.03.

> fetchmailrc:
> 
> poll mailgate.ftech.net with protocol POP3
>       user my_user_name there with password my_password is * here
>       options fetchall forcecr

My system is:
  fetchmail-5.3.1-1
  qmail-1.03+patches-12
  qmail-smtpd-1.03+patches-12

My fetchmailrc is:
  poll jericho.gospelcom.net proto pop3 user pcg password my_password
  forcecr fetchall

All I can tell you is that it works for me.

You might try integrating one of the CRLF-fixing utilities (fixcrio from
ucspi-tcp, I think, or fixcr from Bruce Guenter's RPM) into your qmail
startup scripts. See the qmail home page.

/pg
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Peter Green : Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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