[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From my read of this thread there appear to be two seperate problems.

Your diagnosis of Jake Vickers' note about a "similar message... that is a little more descriptive" - the endpoint advertising TLS but not having a certificate - makes sense.

The "554 qq permanent problem", although triggered from a similar mailing list bounce scenario, appears to me to be a wholly separate issue. While there are a handful of local, receiving-side configuration problems that could manifest as 'qq permanent problem', my best guess is that in this case the error is coming from qmail-dk being overly picky about headers.

As I mentioned in the "ezmlm warning" thread, qmail-dk ought to either not drop messages with headers it thinks are malformed, or it ought to be a lot more verbose.

I don't think that modifying one's DKVERIFY, as roughly documented, can be used to work around this problem. You either have to patch qmail-dk, or you have to turn off DKVERIFY completely.
I have turned off DK on the machine that receives this mailing list and have not had the problem (yet). It usually only happens once a week or so, so I have a few more days until I'm sure this solved it.


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